More Shoppers Drug Mart customers complain they were pushed to use self-checkout

Michael Kerwin said he was furiouswhen at two Toronto-area Shoppers Drug Marts last month, he was told he must purchase his goods using self-checkoutunless he paid with cash.

Self-checkout machines at the drugstore chain only accept debit and credit cards.

"When they basically say, 'Ifyou don't have cash, we're not even taking you at our cashier' ... that's where it started to be a bit of a line in the sand for myself,"said Kerwin. "I want the option to deal with a real human being."

Over the past several years, many Canadian retailers have added self-checkout machines, claiming they provide a convenient option for customers.

But for the second time in two years, CBC News has heard accusations from Shoppers customers that some of the chain's stores are pushing people to use self-checkout.

Concerns about lack of choice, staff

CBC News interviewed six peoplein Alberta, Ontario and New Brunswick who each said that during a recent visit to a Shoppers store, an employee directed debit and credit card payers to self-checkout.All but one of the customers saidthey were emphatically told they could only check out with a cashier if they paid with cash.

Lorrie Perko said that was her experience when visiting a Shoppers last month in Waterloo, Ont.

"[An employee] stood there with her hands crossed, and she said, 'Head office said, unless you're using cash or buying lottery [tickets], you have to use self-checkouts now.'"

Perko said she didn't have enough cash, so she begrudgingly used self-checkout.

"If I'd had cash, I'd have made her open up that till."

Following the publication of this story, CBC News heard from dozens more Shoppers customers from across the country who had similar complaints that they were directed to use self-checkout during a recent visit.

Perkosaid she should have been given a choice.Other complaints from customers interviewedincluded concerns the machines weren't cleaned often enough or thattheir use would result in reductions in staff.

"They're trying to maximize their profits by having [customers] do the work," said Kerwin.

The chain's parent company, Loblaw Companies Ltd., did not respond to questions about whether the introduction of self-checkout machines at Shoppers hasresulted in any job losses.

During a November 2020 Loblawearnings call, the company pinpointed self-checkouts as one of its "efficiency initiatives" and said it has helped the retail giant cut operating costs.

Loblawresponds

In 2019, several Shoppers customers interviewed for aCBC News story also complained they were told to use self-checkout unless paying with cash.

Around that same time, two Shoppers employees in Ontario told CBC that their supervisors were pressuring them to push customers to use the self-checkout machines.

Loblawtold CBC News in 2019 that it expects stores to always offercustomers the option of checking out with a cashier.

"It is not our intention that customers feel they do not have a choice, and we have reminded all stores of this expectation," spokesperson Catherine Thomas said at the time in an email.

As for the latest complaints, CBC News contacted the five Shoppers stores where customers said they were pushed to use self-checkout. Each store said to contact head office.

Loblawtold CBC News its policy hasn't changed and that customers should always have the optionof using a cashier.

The company didn't address the recent claimsexcept to say that it hasn't seen an increase in customer complaints about self-checkouts.

Shoppers has,however, addressed several similarcomplaints on social media in which customers said they felt pushed to use the machines.

In response to one complaint posted last month, a Shoppers spokesperson wrote: "Recently, we've increased our investment in self-checkouts and their technology based on our customer feedback."

Loblawspokesperson Thomas told CBC News that hundreds of thousands of Shoppers customers use the self-checkout option daily.

Survey suggests self-checkouts are popular

During the pandemic, the chain has "seen a significant increase in self-checkout use, with customers looking to minimize interaction with others or for a faster checkout option," Thomas said. "We watch these metrics closely, along with our in-store customer satisfaction, and believe they tell a more accurate story."

A new survey out of Dalhousie University in Halifax also found that self-checkouts have become a popular choice for consumers.

According to the survey, almost 40 per cent of the 10,000 Canadians polled online in May said they planned to use self-checkout most of the time when shopping at grocery stores within the next six months.

The survey's lead investigator, Sylvain Charlebois, said that fears of catching COVID-19 have likely motivated some people to use self-checkout when shopping.

"They want to get out as soon as possible," said Charlebois, who specializes in food distribution and policy at Dalhousie. "If self-checkouts are the one option that will allow them to exit as soon as possible, they'll probably go and self-checkout."

'Vote with our feet'

But not everyone has embraced self-checkout during the pandemic. Determined to have a cashier ring in his goods, Kerwin said he paid cash and that during one of his Shoppers visits, his girlfriend, Colleen Pilger, left the store and went to a bank tellerat a nearby bank to get enough cash so theycould use the cashier option.

WATCH | Customers share their experiences withself-checkout at Shoppers:

Frustrated customers told to pay cash or use self checkout

3 years ago

Duration 1:21

Shoppers Drug Mart customers in three provinces are complaining that they were forced to use self-checkouts to pay for their purchases unless paying cash. Customers Michael Kerwin and Colleen Pilger left the store to get cash from a bank because they wanted to use a cashier.

Kerwinsaid customersshould always havethe option to pay with plastic at the cash register, especially during the pandemic, so he won't be returning to Shoppers until he's assured he can do so.

"All we can do is vote with our feet," he said. "I would highly encourage people to not shop at those places that don't allow you to deal with a cashier using a debit or credit card.

Despite some customers' resistance, self-checkouts may become even more ubiquitous as stores continue to embrace automation.

Currently, retail giants Walmart and Amazon are trying out large-scale stores without cashiers in the U.S.Amazon has set up a full-size grocery store in Seattle with no employees involved in the checkout process.

"Technology is going to become a much more important part of the overall retail landscape, whether it's self-checkouts or completely cashierless," said Marion Chan, a consumer analyst at TrendSpotter Consulting in Toronto. "In the long term, the technology will win."

Even so, customer complaints about self-checkout may be resonating with some retailers.

Walmart's new cashierless store in Fayetteville, Ark., includes more than 30 self-checkout machines placed in a giant U-formation. However, customers can still request that an employee, called a "host," scan their goods for them at self-checkout and even bag their items.

"It's the host's job to make sure the checkout experiences are exactly what customers want them to be," said Walmart in a statement.

* The Dalhousie University surveyreferenced in this story was designed and conducted online by research company, Caddle. Arandomized sample of this size would yield a margin of error of+/- 1.3 per cent19 times out of 20.