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COVID-19 orders weigh personal and economic impact, effect on health outcomes, Manitoba's top doctor testifies

Manitoba's chief public health officer refuteda suggestion in court Fridayhe wasn't properly weighingtheharms ofthe pandemic restrictions he's imposing.

Dr. Brent Roussin testified Friday at court challenge that argues health orders violate Charter rights

Dr. Brent Roussin, Manitoba's chief public health officer, told a court Friday that the detrimental effects of public health orders are considered by everyone involved in discussions around them. (David Lipnowski/The Canadian Press)

Manitoba's chief public health officer refuteda suggestion in court Friday that he hasn't properly weighedtheharms ofthe pandemic restrictions he's imposing, just hours before announcing the latest round of orders intended to curb the spread of COVID-19.

Testifying Friday at a court challenge to Manitoba's pandemic restrictions, Dr. Brent Roussinsaid he's always considered the effects of his orders onnon-COVID health outcomes, such as mental health.

"We're required to make decisions duringlevels of crisis when our hospital capacity was strained and so we're certainly aware of the potential harmsof the importance of these activities to Manitobans," Roussin said in response to questioning fromJared Brown, a lawyer representing the group that launched the legal challenge.

"We've never taken this lightly. This is a crisis."

Roussin's testimony was part of alegal fight questioning his rightto implement restrictions that have limitedpersonal freedoms and economic activities. Later Friday, heunveileda new round of pandemic restrictions.

The court challenge pits religious freedoms againstpublic health measures the province says are reasonable and necessarytokeep people safe during a pandemic that has so far killed nearly 1,000 Manitobans and resulted in40,940 COVID-19 cases.

Seven churches and three individuals behind the challenge argue those public health orders violate Charter rights to freedom of conscience, religion, expression and peaceful assembly.

Tobias Tissen, minister at the Church of God in the RM of Hanover, speaks at a rally outside the Winnipeg Law Courts earlier this week. His church, which has been repeatedly fined for violating public health orders, is one of seven challenging Manitoba's pandemic restrictions in court. (Gary Solilak/CBC)

On Friday, the fifth day of the hearing on the legal challenge, RoussintoldManitoba's Court of Queen's Bench he understands the "unintended consequences" of his public health orders but maintained they're necessary to save lives.

Skeptical 'downstream costs' being considered: lawyer

Brown, however, saidhe saw no evidence incourt submissionsof any risk assessments or risk-benefit analysis being conducted.

He said he received only one provincial report that citedsome non-COVID health outcomes.

"You can see why I'm skeptical when we see such comprehensive reporting on issues related to COVID virus and disease, but there's nothing on the other side" aside from that one document, Brownsaid.

"You can understand why I'm skeptical that these harms, thesedownstream costs are being considered by you."

Roussin responded that he is "privy to this entire range of this pandemic," and speaks with health-care providersacross the system.

"To me, I think we've continually reviewed the impact on the health-care system as a whole."

He said anyresulting harms from the health ordersmust be balanced against thesocietal disruption that would occur if COVID-19 transmission wasleft unchecked.

Many essential workers, including health-care workers, first responders and people who work in critical infrastructure, would callin sick if the spread of the virus wasn'tcontained, he warned.

The detrimental effects of the restrictions are considered by everyone involved indiscussions around them, said Roussin. That includesspecial and technical advisorycommittees, public health officials, and representatives from different government levels, he said.

Roussin, who has amaster's degree in public health, along with legal and medical degrees,hasbeen the public face of Manitoba'spublic health measures,announcing new restrictions whenhe feltrising COVID-19 case counts made them necessary.

Use 'least-restrictive means': Roussin

Under cross-examination by Brown a lawyer for the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms, which launched the challenge on behalf of the group of churches and individuals Roussinsaid his goal in imposing restrictions has never been to eliminate the virus entirely, but to minimize the impact on high-risk communities and a stressed health-care system.

Other medical professionals have criticized the "incremental approach we've taken," he said, "but I'm bound to use that least-restrictivemeans."

Roussin said public health has balanced restrictions with the understanding the coronavirus that causes COVID-19 is most likely to spread fromclose, prolonged contact. He said the risk of transmission is greater in a place of worship where people are seated close together than a big-box store with a limit on capacity.

He said he was aware of 22 COVID-19 clusters in faith-based settings so far. Some outbreaks in churches infected half of the attendees, Roussin said.

Pressed on testing

Brown also pressed the doctor several times on the effectiveness of PCR tests for COVID-19, which can detect old butsince resolvedinfections.

RoussinsaidPCRtests haveaccurately predicted future levels of hospitalization in Manitoba. In the pandemic's secondwave, sevenper cent of all individuals in Manitoba who tested positive presented to hospital and 1.4 per cent were admitted toanintensive care unit.

The vast majority of cases detected throughPCR test areinfectious, as Manitoba's COVID-19 testing protocol has focused predominately onsymptomatic people, Roussin testified.

Asymptomatic contacts have, in large part, been discovered by testing the close contacts of symptomatic cases, hesaid.

"There's too much being made of the limitations of very, very good [PCR]tests, especially how we're using it," said Roussin.

The court hearing, which began Monday and was scheduled for nine days, continues next week.Dr. Joel Kettner, formerly Manitoba'schief public health officer, is slated to testify next Monday.

Chief Justice Glenn Joyal is presiding over the court case, which may have national repercussions. TheCalgary-based Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms is launchingsimilar hearings in B.C. and Alberta.

With files from Karen Pauls