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'Nasty turn' in Guess Who fight sees Burton Cummings cancel agreements that let band perform his songs

Burton Cummingss latest blow in his legal battle against the current lineup of the Guess Who is tarnishing the legacy of the famous Winnipeg rock band, a Winnipeg music historian says and could set the stage for similar rifts between bands and former members.

'A lot of people are being harmed by this,' says manager of famed band

A man playing keyboards sings on a stage, with two people playing guitars behind him.
Burton Cummings performs during Manitoba night at BC Place following the medals ceremony at the 2010 Vancouver Winter Olympics. Cummings has terminated performing rights agreements to stop his former Guess Who bandmates from performing songs he wrote. (Tara Walton/The Canadian Press)

Burton Cummings's latest blow in his legal battle against the current lineup of the Guess Who is tarnishing the legacy of the famous Winnipeg rock band, a local music historian says and could set the stage for similar rifts between bands and former members.

The band's ex-frontman has terminated agreements with performing-rights organizations for every Guess Who song he wrote and published, which means fans of hits like American Womanor These Eyeswon't be able to hear them played live in concert, according to a story published this week by Rolling Stone magazine.

Winnipeg music historian John Einarson said it's an unusual move that shows the fight between Cummings and the band has"taken such a nasty turn."

"What's always kind of burned Burton Cummings's butt is that Jim Kale and Garry Peterson, who were original members of the band, have been going out under the Guess Who name," Einarson, whohas written extensively about the band,told Faith Fundal on CBC's Up to Speed on Friday.

"But they're singing the songs that Burton sang, and he doesn't like that at all."

Cummings has now taken "a very benign music arm of the business that collects [royalties] for songwriters" when their music is played on radio or in concert, "and he's weaponized it," Einarson said.

CBC News has asked Burton Cummings for comment.

A guitarist and singer are pictured performing on stage.
Randy Bachman, left, and Cummings are seen in a file photo. Last year, they filed a lawsuit accusing former bandmates Jim Kale and Garry Peterson of deceiving fans with a band touring under the Guess Who name. (Submitted by Manitoba 150)

Cummings has been involved in a decades-long fight withbassist Kale and drummer Peterson,whowereamong the founding members of the Winnipeg band along with Cummings and guitarist Randy Bachman.

Last year, Cummingsand Bachman filed a lawsuit accusingKale andPeterson of deceiving fans with a band touring under the Guess Who name.

Kale has not performed with the latest incarnation of the band whichBachman and Cummings's lawsuitreferred to as "the cover band" since 2016, and Peterson makes infrequent appearances with the group, according to thelawsuit.

But in their own court filing, Kale and Peterson argued they've always been upfront about the band's numerous member changes and have never advertised Cummings and Bachman as being part of the current lineup.

However, Cummings's latest move means the band can't perform some of the Guess Who's biggest hits.

Cummings confirmed the move in Thursday'sRolling Stone story, saying the band will be sued every time they perform a songhe wrote. He accused the band of taking his life story and "pretending it's theirs."

"I'm willing to do anything to stop the fake band," Cummings was quoted as sayingin the Rolling Stone article.

'Devastating' to band: manager

Since nearly every venue in the United Stateshas agreements with performing rights organizations, thetermination means most American venues can't host any performances of Cummings's songs.

It also means, however, that Cummings will lose out on royalties he normally earns from those performances.

"It's really hurting the legacy of the Guess Who," said Einarson.

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Left to right: Bachman, Peterson, Cummings and Kale appear on stage at the Juno Awards in Toronto on the night of Monday, Nov. 2, 1987, as the Guess Who were named to the Juno Hall of Fame. (Tim Clark/The Canadian Press Picture Archive)

The manager of the current Guess Who lineup,Randy Erwin, said they're willing to sit down with Cummings to negotiate, but whether or not that happens is"up to him."

"It's devastating," he told CBC News over the phone on Saturday.

"[My] biggest concern is for Jim and Garry, the owners of the Guess Whotrademark, and the band members and everybody else that's associated with the ... performance of this band to be able to make a living and continue to work."

Several shows in Florida andAlabamahave been cancelled since the band found out about the terminated agreements last Saturday, on a day they were expected to perform, Erwin said.

Since it was a weekend, they weren't about to contactBroadcast Music, Inc. (BMI), the performance-rights organization the band had an agreement with, to see if the songs had to be pulled.

"It's been, you know, damage control. We've been in contact with the venues for shows that are supposed to be occurring and consulting with our legal team," Erwin said, adding that about 70 or so shows are already booked for 2024.

Like Einarson, he said Cummings's approach is novel.

"In my 50-plus years in this industry, I've never seen somebody weaponize the actual copyright," he said.

'Doesn't feel right'

Einarson said other artistsmight now run into similar problems.

"It really opens up a whole floodgate of, you know, possibly a lot of negativity happening and a lot of artists who discover that they can't perform anymore because someone else is preventing them from doing it," he said.

Erwin said it'snot only the band members who will take a financial hit. Merchandise companies, venues that have shows booked, promoters and venue staff will also lose out.

"Alot of people are being harmed by this," he said including Cummings. "Hemakes money every time we're out there working.

"It just doesn't feel right."

Einarson said he thinks there's an element of jealousy in Cummings's move.

"It's not being motivated by money," he said."It's really about this very personal thing."

He also said he doesn't buy Cummings's claim that fans are being duped into thinking they'll see him and Bachman in concert.

In the 1960s and 1970s, "no one ever knew who was in the band. It wasn't Burton Cummings and the Guess Who," Einarsonsaid.

"That's one of the things that hurt Burton's solo career when he went out on his own after the Guess Who, was a lot of people said, 'Well, who's he?'"

With files from Faith Fundal