Anything short of an apology, visit from the Pope is an 'insult,' 2 Indigenous people say

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Some Manitoba Indigenous peopleare calling on Pope Francis to apologize for the role the Catholic Church played in residential schools, but say true reconciliation is what happens afterwards.

The Pope is holding private hour-long audiences with more than 30 members of First Nations, Mtis and Inuitdelegations this week in Vatican City.

Mtis delegates metwith the Pope first on Monday, while aseparate meeting with Inuit and First Nations delegates will take placeon Thursday.

The Pope has not yet apologized for the church's role in residential schools,which forced over 150,000 First Nations, Mtis and Inuit childrento attend church-run, government-funded schools between the 1870s and 1997.

The National Centre for Truth and Reconciliationhas identified the names of, or information about,more than 4,100 children who diedwhile attending these schools, most due to malnourishment or disease. However, the death count could be much higher due to poor record-keeping.

In the days after the death of his father, Raymond Masona residential school survivor and advocate for others who suffered similar abusesKyle Mason says that needs to happen.

"[The Pope]needs to take a firm, unequivocal stance and say that we're sorry, we have wronged you and we need to do better and we need a change," he said.

"There are still too many people that have this misguided view that residential schools meant well or they had good intentions. No, no, they didn't. They were evil."

The Catholic Church operated roughly 70 per cent of Canada's residential schools.

Niigaan Sinclair,a University of Manitoba professor ofNative studies, hopes the week will end with that apologyand a commitment from the Pope to visit Canada,fulfilling call to action No. 58 of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission.

"Anything less would be an insult. Expecting Indigenous peoples to fly all the way to the Vatican and then not have that happen would simply be an insult and would be unfortunately unsurprising," he said.

The apology is only just the first step.

"Begin the process of performing reparations for the tremendous harm the stolen land, the stolen lives, the stolen experiences of Indigenous children and lives and communities," Sinclair said.

"The fact is that the Catholic Church has a long way to go before it can even begin to use the word reconciliation."

For him, reconciliation means returning stolen land, returning anystolen artifacts that the Catholic Church holds and making public any documents that show which Indigenous children were buried in unmarked graves.

"That is what reconciliation looks like. It's action. It's not an apology."

Support is available for anyone affected by their experience at residential schools or by the latest reports.

A national Indian Residential School Crisis Line has been set up to provide support for former students and those affected. People can access emotional and crisis referral services by calling the 24-hour national crisis line: 1-866-925-4419.