Serial killer saw not criminally responsible verdict as 'easier way out,' made up delusions: Crown expert

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An admitted Winnipeg serial killer likely made up his claims that hallucinations and delusions drove him to kill four women in 2022 to try to avoid being convicted of murder, theforensic psychiatrist hired by prosecutors to assess Jeremy Skibicki's mental state testified during his trial Wednesday.

Dr. Gary Chaimowitz said he found no evidence to support a conclusion that Skibicki, 37, has schizophrenia, as another expertDr. Sohom Das, who was enlisted by the defence to assess Skibickitestified on Tuesday.

"I believe that the plethora of symptoms that Mr. Skibicki described to me and Dr. Das are fabrications of a major mental disorder, which is understandable given his situation," Chaimowitz testified Wednesday, adding Skibicki had never previously been treated for schizophrenia ordiagnosed with it by any of the psychiatrists whoassessed him.

"He saw this as an easier way out than the life sentences that he knew he was going to get."

Instead, the Ontario-basedpsychiatrist said his opinion is that Skibicki was driven to kill the women whose deaths he's now on trial for by homicidal necrophilia an arousal to having sex with people he's killed.

Court previously heard Skibicki said he performed sex acts on the bodies of all four women after killing them.

Chaimowitz said "given the gravity and horror of his acts" and their potential consequences if convicted of murder, Skibicki had a motivation to exaggerate or fake symptoms of a mental disorder during his psychiatric evaluations.

He also testified Wednesday that he determined Skibicki has an antisocial personality disorder and a substance abuse disorder, following assessments he conducted for a total of roughly eight hours over two days last month.

Chaimowitz said in his report Skibicki "likely too has some psychopathic features," but noted he did not specifically assess him for psychopathy.

The psychiatrist said Skibicki's actions and behaviours "all point to a conspiracy laden, racist man with significant personality problems and addictions," and this his description of his psychotic symptoms "stretches credulity."

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"That these symptoms, some of which do not correlate with genuine psychotic symptoms, would go undetected for years stretches the imagination," Chaimowitz wrote.

"In my view, the things he describes are not indicative or even suggestive of schizophrenia."

He said based on his psychiatric assessment, he believesSkibicki would have continued what he was doing if he hadn't been stopped as Skibickitold police in his 2022 interview.

Skibicki has pleaded not guilty to four first-degree murder charges in the deaths of three First Nations women Rebecca Contois, 24, Morgan Harris, 39, and Marcedes Myran, 26 and an unidentified woman community leaders have given the name Mashkode Bizhiki'ikwe, or Buffalo Woman, who police have said they believe was an Indigenous woman in her 20s.

Skibickiadmitted to police in aninterview after his May 2022 arrest that hekilled the four women, but his defence has argued he should be found not criminally responsible due to a mental disorder.

Judge tells defence not to 'let oxygen be used up'

During cross-examination, defence lawyer Leonard Tailleurquestioned Chaimowitz at length about whether Skibicki's meth use around the time of the killings could have caused schizophrenic episodes.

He also repeatedly asked Chaimowitzquestions aboutwhether he thoughtsome of Skibicki's behaviour, including insocial media posts, suggested delusions.In one post, Skibicki wrote that he is "not schizophrenic, nordo I hallucinate."

When asked what he thought of that post, Chaimowitz said it was "one of the things that I actually agree with him on." The psychiatrist said while some of Skibicki's statements might be bizarre, they often fit within an ideology like racism and weren't clinically delusional.

At one point, Court of King's Bench Chief Justice Glenn Joyal interrupted Tailleur's questions and said they'd gotten too repetitive,were not "useful or respectful" and had become "almost insulting" to the psychiatrist, whose answers remained unchanged each time.

In response, the defence lawyer said Crown attorney Christian Vanderhooft had a day earlier grilled the defence's psychiatric witness for an extended period of time during cross-examination without being interrupted.

"I don't accept that proposition to begin with, but even if it was in some way viable, you've long since evened it up," the judge replied, adding he refused tocontinue to "let the oxygen be used up" with repetitive questions.

"I'm not going to sit here for the next hour-and-a-half, watching myself grow old as I'm hearing the same answers to the same questions."

The heated exchange ended when Joyal told Tailleur, who called the judge's remarks offensive, thathe seemed "indignant" and called a 10-minute recess so the defence lawyer could "figure out how you want to proceed."

Tailleur also pointed to several times when schizophrenia was mentioned in Skibicki's medical records, which Chaimowitz said seemed to be the product of Skibicki telling health-care providers he thought he had the condition, and not an actual diagnosis.

The psychiatrist said those medical records also show Skibicki had so many interactions with the health-care system that someone likely would have noticed symptoms of schizophrenia had they existed and diagnosed him.

Tailleur also later accused the psychiatrist of bias and prematurely making his mind up, citing two cases Chaimowitz had testifiedin where he disagreed with a diagnosis of schizophrenia before the courts found the person not criminally responsible due to the illness.

Crown attorney Christian Vanderhooft noted in both cases, Chaimowitz had been open to the possibility the person had schizophrenia he just didn't believe it was the most likely diagnosis.

Delusions, psychotic symptoms to blame: defence expert

Das, the U.K.-based forensic psychiatrist hired by the defence, testified earlier this week that Skibickitold him he was actually encouraged to kill the women by voices he was hearing at the time and claimedhe'd told police a different story because he'd been overtaken by an entity that could have been either God or the devil, which was speaking on his behalf.

Those details helped inform Das's conclusion that Skibickiwas motivated by delusions and psychotic symptoms caused by schizophrenia when he killed the women, the defence expert told court.

Das's report and testimony on Skibicki were the only evidence presented by the defence.

Prosecutors have alleged the killings were racially motivated, andthat Skibickipreyed on vulnerable Indigenous women at Winnipeg homeless shelters before killing the women and throwing their remains in the garbage.

Chaimowitz said Wednesday that in his view, Skibicki doesn't meet the criteria to be found not criminally responsible in the killings because he didn't have a mental disorder that made him unable to understand what he was doing or that it was wrong.

He testified that the killings appeared to be "semi-planned" and organized and had "both racial enmity and a necrophiliac drive." The psychiatrist also said the fact that Skibicki is "soft-spoken, outwardly gentle, and thoughtful are features that can disarm potential victims."

Chaimowitzalso noted in his report that the likelihood that the killings were "a function of psychosis" seemed extremely low, "even if these thoughts were present (which I think is highly unlikely)."

The psychiatrist also said the women who Skibicki killed belonged to "a vulnerable accessible group whose disappearance unfortunately may go relatively unnoticed."

The judge-alone trial in Winnipeg began hearing evidence on May 8. Itresumed Monday after a break following the conclusion of the Crown's case on May 22.Closing submissions are scheduled for Monday.

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An admitted Winnipeg serial killer likely made up his claims that hallucinations and delusions drove him to kill four women in 2022 to try to avoid being convicted of murder, the forensic psychiatrist hired by prosecutors to assess Jeremy Skibicki's mental state testified during his trial Wednesday.

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