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Former education minister says inclusion in N.B. has become an 'absurd situation'

Former education minister Dominic Cardy said inclusion has become an "absurd situation" where every student is expected to stay in the classroom, regardless of the impact on the rest of the class.

Grand Falls parent says system is failing her son, 'I just want what every other mother wants'

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Nichole McCarthy says there isn't adequate support at school for her youngest son, seen here with his older brother, to be successful and he has been moved to half-days. (Submitted by Nichole McCarthy)

Nichole McCarthy worries about her 10-year-old son's future.

Tristenhas a diagnosis of autism. He can't read or write McCarthy fears he never will at this rate. She said he attends Grade 5 for only half days and is falling further and further behind.

"He can't just sit home half of the day, every day, while all the other kids are getting instructions and schooling. This is just going to continue snowballing. I'm worried for him," the Grand Falls mother said.

"I'm not going to be here forever to take care of him. I'm trying to prepare him for the future."

McCarthy said her sondoesn't have a full-time education assistant and is a "bolter." She said he runs away when he can't cope with a stressful situation. He's even run away from school and been intercepted by police.

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Nichole McCarthy wants a full time education assistant assigned to her son, Tristen, but even with budget increases she worries that isn't going to happen. (Submitted by Nichole McCarthy)

She said he is entitled to an education and to the resources needed to make sure he gets one.

"He's put in a classroom with all the other children and expected to sit in a desk all day and do the same things all the other children are doing, which he cannot," said McCarthy.

For former education minister Dominic Cardy, Tristen's story is a familiar one.

"The problem we have right now is that you've got schools that are massively overstretchedin terms of the resources they needto be able to look after kids with behavioural issues," said Cardy.

"We've got kids on the [autism] spectrum who are, through no fault of their own, acting out because they don't have the regulatory mechanisms to be able to control that behaviour."

Coupled with what Cardy calls "a serious decline in the respect that's shown to teachers and the ability that teachers have to control their classrooms," he said it means New Brunswick has "settled for rhetorical inclusion."

"And so you end up with this in-between, where we pretend that we have a fully inclusive classroom."

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Former education minister Dominic Cardy said changes have to be made to inclusion, starting with how inclusion is defined. (CBC)

Cardy saidthe students may betogether in the same classroom, but the teachers haven't been given the tools to address each child's needs.

"I hear from teachers all the time about how they can't focus on the kids who've got real issues because they're just trying to keep control in their classroom. That often means they can't even really teach."

Cardy said that's one of the factors that's led to declining standards and poor student performance over the years.

Schools in 'incredibly difficult' situation

Cardy said changes have to be made to inclusion, starting with how inclusion is defined.

He said a letter was sent out at the beginning of the school year, "making it clear that we defined inclusion as being inclusion within the school, not the classroom."

That, he said, means all students would be included in the classroom until the issues of a single student impact the education of the rest of the class. At that point, a student could be immediately removed and dealt with in another part of the school.

Cardy said it was part of a series of reforms that were planned for this year and next.

The right of the child is to be with their peers and within the classroom.- Sarah Wagner, Inclusion N.B.

When Cardy quit his job as education minister in October, the department was starting to implement some of thosechanges, and he's hopeful the reforms will continue to roll out.

The Department of Education was asked about the memo and the status of the changes to inclusion. While a spokesperson acknowledged the memo, no details were provided, including whether the change of focus would go ahead.

CBCrequested an interview with Education Minister Bill Hogan but was told he was not available.

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Education Minister Bill Hogan said inclusion does not mean "every student in every class 100 per cent of the time." (Legislative Assembly of New Brunswick)

On Tuesday, when he tabled the education budget in the legislature, Hogan said, "in certain parts of the province, the impression has been left that you need to have a student in your class, keep them in the classno matter what, and that's simply not the case."

He said inclusion"never meantnor does itmean today everystudent in every class 100 per centof the time."

Hogan said the department will work with the districts to make sure everyone understands what the policy means.He also said the department is allocating $30.8 million for the 2023-24 school year to improve inclusion.

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Sarah Wagner, executive director of Inclusion N.B., said inclusion in the classroom should include every student, without exception. (Submitted by Sarah Wagner)

However, Sarah Wagner, executive director of Inclusion N.B., said inclusion should mean every student, all the time, without exception.

"The right of the child is to be with their peers and within the classroom," she said. "The way we need to look at it is what supports are required to make that successful."

Wagner said it's up to the province to provide the proper resources to make inclusion work for all students. She said she's hopeful that a recent increase to the education budget will be used effectively to "bring more hands around the table with qualified professionals to support the diverse needs of New Brunswick students."

She said educators need more training and resources, including more resource teachers, occupational therapists,and speech-language therapists to support the needs ofdiverse learners. Or, she said, smaller class sizes or "team teaching" models.

"We need to deploy the resources effectively to support that, so teachers can teach," said Wagner.

'I want my kids to have an education'

Despite inclusion, McCarthysaid the school system has failed to provide the resources needed to keep her son in school and learning along with his peers.

She said Tristen, like other children, loves Lego and Play-Doh and video games, but she also knows hewill likely continue to havechallenges when it comes to regulating his emotions.

She wants a full time assistantassigned to Tristen, but even with budget increases she worries that isn't going to happen.

"I just want what every other mother wants. I want my kids to have an education and I want my kids to be safe."