RCMP training prior to Moncton Mountie shootings was 'solid,' expert testifies

The training the RCMP provides to its officers is comparable to police training offered in the United States and a step ahead in some areas, a U.S. expert testified Wednesday during the national police force's Labour Code trial related to the Moncton Mountie shootings.

Defence witness Pete Blair, a professor of criminal justice at Texas State University,said shootings targeting police were rare prior to June 4, 2014, when Justin Bourque killed threeMoncton officers and wounded two others.

It's impossible to predict and train for every situation, said Blair,who is also the executive director ofAdvanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training,an organization that aims to provide the best research-based active shooter response training in the U.S.

The RCMP is accused of failing to protect its members during Bourque's shooting rampage in a residential area of Moncton's north end.

The police force is charged with violating four provisions of the Canada Labour Codeby allegedlyfailing to provide members with appropriate use-of-force equipmentand trainingfor responding to an active threat or active shooting event and failing to ensurethe health and safety of every person employed by the force.

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Provincial court Judge Leslie Jackson deemed Blair an expert in police training and tactics, specializing in active shooter situations.

He testifiedit's not more dangerous for police to enter active shooter situationswitha pistol than a carbinerifle.

Either way, police are entering a situation where someone has the intent to kill, he said.

But during cross-examination, Crown prosecutor Paul Adams challenged Blair's statement, citing his own research indicating pistols are likely ineffective in outdoor shooting events because ofgreater distances.

About one in fiveshooting events occurs outdoors, according to Blair, based on his experience in the U.S.

Carbines are semi-automatic, short-barrelled rifles that have a longer and more accurate rangethanpistols or shotguns.

The use ofcarbines and why the Mounties didn't have them has been at the centre of the trial,which has been going on since April except for a recent two-week break.

Bourquewas carrying a semi-automatic rifleduring theMonctonshootings,andtheRCMPofficerswho responded werearmed with their duty pistols.

Some previous witnesses have suggestedsome of the deaths could have been prevented if the officers had been better armed.

About 300RCMPofficers were trained to use carbines by the day of the shootings, but none were in New Brunswick,the trial hasheard.

Prior toMoncton, we didn't really see these active shooter events, particularly outdoor shooter events, that are targeted specifically at police officers.- Pete Blair, criminal justice professor

Adams asked Blair if he was aware 13 officers in Canada have been killed by long guns since 2000. Blair replied he was unaware.

Even if it is "rare" for police officers to be the direct targets, as Blair testified, the risk is still there, the prosecutor argued.

Adams also took issue with Blair's testimony that in 2014, the U.S. had no specific supervisory training component for active shooting situations.

He pointed out that Blair's owns program, developed 12 years before the Moncton shootings, teaches that someone has to take control of the situation. Blair agreed.

Training wasn't mandatory

Still, Blairdescribed theRCMP's training program in 2014called Immediate Action Rapid Deployment as a "solid foundation," saying it was comparable to training in the U.S. The force's Incident Management/Intervention Model is a step ahead of what's available in the U.S., he said.

Active shooter training wasn't mandatory for either the RCMP or police in the U.S. in 2014, but it is mandatory for the RCMP now,the courtroom heard.

Blair citedonly a few cases where police were targetedall of which occurred after theMonctonshootings.

"You can always talk about could you have possibly trained for something?That's always possible," Blair told reporters outside the courthouse.

"But prior to Moncton, we didn't really see these active shooter events, particularly outdoor shooter events, that are targeted specifically at police officers. Then we saw the Moncton attack happen."

"There was also a large attack in Dallas, Texas, and in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, that has really forced that into the public eye, and people are paying more attention to that particular issue. So you're seeing many more police forces start to deal with that particular problem and train on it."

The trial resumes Thursday at 9:30 a.m.

Bourqueis serving five life sentences with no chance of parole for 75 years after pleading guilty to three counts of first-degree murder and two counts of attempted murder.

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