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Churchill Falls negotiators met 5 times outside N.L. in last year

Negotiators from Newfoundland and Labrador Hydro and Hydro-Qubec have met on at least five occasions since formal talks were announced to reopen the Churchill Falls agreement last February.

N.L. Hydro CEO travelled for talks in Nova Scotia and Quebec

Power lines span across a river in winter.
High-voltage wires carry 90 per cent of the electricity produced at the Churchill Falls dam toward the Quebec-Labrador border, some 200 kilometres to the south. (Danny Arsenault/CBC)

Negotiators from Newfoundland and Labrador Hydro and Hydro-Qubec have met on at least five occasions since formal talks were announced to reopen the Churchill Falls agreement last February.

About a hundred pages of receipts and travel itineraries obtained by CBC/Radio-Canada show N.L. Hydro CEO Jennifer Williams travelled four times to Quebec and once to Nova Scotia for negotiations on the future of the 5,428-megawatt plant on Labrador's Churchill River.

The current deal, signed in 1969, is highly advantageous to Quebec and doesn't expire until 2041, but the Newfoundland and Labrador and Quebec governments agreed to talks last February in St. John's.

Quebec Premier Franois Legault, on the hunt for new sources of renewable energy, says he'll reopen the deal if Newfoundland and Labrador agrees to boost hydroelectricity production on the Churchill River.

Officials first met last March on neutral ground in Nova Scotia, where documents show they took part in two days of "preliminary discussions."

Sixteen negotiators nine from Newfoundland and Labrador and seven from Quebec dined together at a Halifax restaurant on March 21, "in an effort for the teams to get to know each other better, thereby enhancing each team's ability to have the most constructive discussions possible."

A smiling woman with glasses sits at a table.
Jennifer Williams is the CEO of Newfoundland and Labrador Hydro. (Terry Roberts/CBC)

A receipt dated May 4 shows three of Newfoundland and Labrador's lead negotiators Williams; Denis Mahoney, the province's deputy minister of justice; and Karl Smith, the former CEO of energy company Fortis ate at Montreal's Vargas Steakhouse, steps from Hydro-Qubec headquarters, while in town for Churchill Falls meetings.

Weeks later, Williams returned to Montreal for "commercial meetings" on July 12.

In September, at the request of Newfoundland and Labrador Premier Andrew Furey, Williams also attended the Annual Conference of New England Governors and Eastern Canadian Premiers in Quebec City a meeting at which Furey first publicly told Legault he should "show us the money."

Williams also travelled to Montreal for meetings in December, according to N.L. Hydro spokesperson Jill Pitcher.

Churchill Falls: Powerful, isolated and high-stakes. Take a look inside

10 months ago
Duration 3:16
Its the second most powerful hydroelectric complex in the country. While Quebec and Newfoundland and Labrador negotiate the future of Churchill Falls, CBC/Radio-Canada got a rare look at the underground facility. Reporter Patrick Butler went 300 metres deep to bring you this story.

'Active and ongoing' negotiations

Hydro-Qubec and N.L. Hydro refused to say whether Quebec's negotiating team travelled to Newfoundland and Labrador for talks.

"We won't be commenting on this topic," wrote Hydro-Qubec spokesperson Maxence Huard-Lefebvre in an email in French.

"This is an active and ongoing negotiation process," added Pitcher.

Furey and Legault were photographed together earlier this month while attending a Montreal Canadiens game. While Legault posted the photo to X, formerly known as Twitter, his spokesperson EwanSauves said in French that the hockey game was a "personal and private activity." Furey's spokesperson Sonja Pomeroy said the two leaders ran into each other at the game.

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With files from Rob Antle