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RCMP 'at the highest level' knew N.S. gunman's spouse was being investigated

A senior Mountie testified at the Mass Casualty Commission Thursday that 'there was corporate awareness at the highest level' about potential charges against the gunman's partner, Lisa Banfield.

National headquarters was briefed on investigation of Lisa Banfield, inquiry told

A man in a suit sits at a desk with a notebook and a glass of water in front of him.
Chief Supt. Chris Leather testifies at the Mass Casualty Commission on Thursday. (CBC)

One of Nova Scotia's top Mounties says thecharges against the spouse of the gunman responsible for the April 2020 mass killings in the province were serious and there was "corporate awareness at the highest level" within the RCMP about them.

Chief Supt. Chris Leather testified at the Mass Casualty Commission Thursday about the criminal charges laid against Lisa Banfield, who was accused of supplying ammunition to the gunman, Gabriel Wortman.The charges, laid in December 2020, were dismissedthis week after the case completed restorative justice.

Michael Scott,lawyerfor many of the victims' families, asked Leatherwhether the charges wereintended to delay or obstruct the inquiry into the rampage, which left 22 victims, including a pregnant woman.

Commission counsel has suggestedthe charges could be seen to prevent certain evidence from being subpoenaed to the inquiry because itwould be protected while anycourt case was active.

Leather denied that. "The idea of even the sentiment of obstructing any agency is foreign to me."

'We were going to pursue that with all our ability'

He said while the RCMP was aware the inquiry had just been called, it didn't impact their decision to continue investigating and present the evidence against Banfield to the public prosecution service.

"We were going to pursue that with all our ability unless we were directed to do otherwise, and there are very few sources thatcan provide that kind of direction to have us halt an investigation," he said. "We certainly did not receive any such recommendation or direction from any authority above us to do so."

Leather saidmembers within the RCMP's national headquarters had been briefed.

"There was corporate awareness at the highest level of our decision to continue the investigation and submit it to public prosecution."

Optics not a factor in charges

Chief. Supt. Darren Campbelltestified earlier this week that senior officers, including Leather, discussed the optics of charging Banfield, who is a survivor of domestic violenceperpetrated by the gunman.

Leather testified Thursday that while there were discussions about how charges would be perceived, they did not factor into the decision to charge her.

"We make many unpopular decisions," he said.

The gunman's partner Lisa Banfield, left, stands with a Nova Scotia RCMP investigator near the remains of the gunman's warehouse in Portapique in October 2020, during a re-enactment of the events that took place months earlier on April 18, 2020. (Mass Casualty Commission)

Just weeks before she was charged,Banfield re-enacted for police investigators what she saw and experienced the night of the mass casualties. Her lawyer has suggested she was never cautioned beforehand that she was under investigation or had a right to consult a lawyer.

Scott asked Leather whether he was ever privy to discussion about the idea the charges might not be viable because she wasn't cautioned. He said he was not.

Scott also asked if he viewed the charges as "minor," as they have been characterized by some during the inquiry.

"Of course, depending on the circumstances, they may be looked at as rather benign in the terms of the scale of firearms offences that we typically investigate,but that of course that is not the lens that I would look at these particular charges. They would be high profile, serious under the circumstances."

'Institutional betrayal' by RCMP

Kristina Fifield, a trauma therapist at the Avalon Sexual Assault Centre in Halifax, said in an interview with CBC on Thursday that Banfield should never have been charged.

She said the control and manipulation the gunman subjected Banfield to should have been better understood, as well as what the long-term abuse meant for her safety.

"She was a victim that night. Just because she survived some individuals in the public have placed blame on her,and that is not fair. That is not OK. She's lucky she survived thatnight. She was victim No. 1."

A woman in a black shirt sits in front of a plant and a Pride flag.
Kristina Fifield, a trauma therapist at the Avalon Sexual Assalt Centre, says Banfield should not have been charged. (Eric Woolliscroft/CBC)

Fifield, who is a participant in the inquiry, also called theRCMP's request to haveBanfield re-enact what she had gone through the night of the rampage "harmful."

"I can't imagine putting any survivor or victim through that. It should never have happened. That is not ethically,morally OK, and again goes to the lack of understanding and compassion for human beings.Lisa should not have had to do that.

"When you talk about harms, when you talk about wounding, when you talk about betrayal, that was institutional betrayal and secondary wounding by the RCMP."

Fifield said she is concerned about what message is being sent to victims of domestic or intimate partner violence because of Banfield's treatment, and said victim-blaming can prevent some people from seeking help or leaving dangerous situations and further isolate them.

The Mass Casualty Commission is expected to file its final report with recommendations in November. Fifield urged the commission to include accountability measures in that report.

"Too often, recommendationsin these inquirieson paper they look great, and then they sit on shelves," she said. "We really truly need to look at how we hold systems accountable."

With files from Angela MacIvor