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'The door's been slammed shut on me': Sixties Scoop survivor from N.S. denied compensation

Debbie Paul was taken by a nun when the former Shubenacadie Indian Residential School closed in 1967 and brought to live with a white family in Massachusetts for a year. Last week, she was told her Sixties Scoop class action compensation application was denied.

Debbie Paul applied to Sixties Scoop Class Action Settlement agreement in 2018

Kidnapped by nun, residential school survivor fights for compensation

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[WARNING: This story contains distressing details] When the Shubenacadie Indian Residential School in Nova Scotia closed in 1967, Debbie Paul didnt go home. Instead, she was taken by a nun to Rockland, Mass. and forced to live with a white family. Now, shes fighting for compensation but first needs to find proof of what happened to her.

Debbie Paul sits at the kitchen table at her home in Sipekne'katik First Nation, N.S., and combs through her Sixties Scoopfolder a collection of legal documents, lettersand faded photos of herself as a child at the former Shubenacadie Indian Residential School.

The folder holdsa paper trail of Paul's journey. She has been looking for justicefor years, and a letter she got last week makes her feel like she is no closer to a resolution after all her work.

"Now it seems like my validation, they took it away from me," Paul said.

The letter is a final rejection from the Sixties Scoop Class Action Settlement agreement, meant to grant personal settlements to "Status Indian" and Inuit children, who were taken or "scooped" from their parents and communities between 1951 and 1991. They were put into the care of non-Indigenous families, became Crown wards or were placed in permanent care settings.

Paul points to the words"official rejection" and "no action possible." Those words stand outat the top of theone-page letter.

'No recourse'

"The door's been slammed shut on me," shesaid. "I have no recourse. This is Canada. We're supposed to be a free country. I should be able to appeal that decision."

In 2018, Paul applied to the Sixties Scoop class action settlement agreement.

According to the Crown-Indigenous Relations and Northern Affairs Canada web page, "Eligible class members will receive an estimated $25,000 in compensation for harm suffered as a result of their experiences in the Sixties Scoop."

When applications closed in December 2019, 34,770 people had applied. As of last month,19,822 claims had been approved. An additional 10,251 claims have been denied, appealed, and then denied for a final time with no right to appeal again.

There arealso 514 claims that have been rejected but have not yet been appealed.

Debbie Paul sits in her home in Sipekne'katik First Nation in Nova Scotia. (Robert Guertin/CBC)

In 2020, Paul's claim was rejected for the first time.

She was told she had no proof that she was kidnapped by a nun when the Shubenacadie institution closed in 1967 and brought to live with a white family in Massachusetts for a year. She says that throughout that year she was abused and forced to act as the family's housekeeper, then sent back to Nova Scotia alone with no explanation.

After Paul travelled to the U.S. in November 2021, she found proof that traced her back to Rockland, Mass.She sent in every official document she could gather, and appealed the rejection with no legal help.

Then came the March 2022 letter.

The Shubenacadie residential school operated from 1929 to 1967.
The Shubenacadie residential school operated from 1929 to 1967. (CBC)

The reason for the final rejection is listed as the inability to confirm that Paul was placed in "long-term care" with non-Indigenous guardians.

"I didn't make up those stories," Paul said. "It's what really happened to me. I have it here.I have proof."

Claims processes can be traumatic

Vanessa Nevin, director of health at the Atlantic Policy Congress of First Nations Chiefs Secretariat, said going through claims processes like the Sixties Scoop class action settlement agreement can bring up childhood trauma and "huge, intense emotions."

"And when you're denied a claim or your claim has been lowered you start to feel unworthy or not believed, or that what happened to you didn't matter in the eyes of the government," Nevin said.

"Because essentially they're saying because [Paul] wasn't compensated, that her abuse wasn't worthy of compensation. Whereas I would say that it's very worthy."

When Paul got in touch with a representative for Collectiva, the administrator of the settlement agreement, she was told she was rejected because she was in care for less than five years.

Debbie Paul and journalist Trina Roache in Rockland, Mass., in 2021, where Paul was abandoned with a nun's brother and his family. (Mike Heenan)

"I was taken away, 12 years old. And it wasn't long enough. According to [the rejection letter], I didn't suffer long term. Excuse me. It's a lifetime. If it happened once, it's a lifetime."

The five-year eligibility requirement is listed on the administrator's website, but was not on the application form Paul filled out in 2018.

She said she wouldn't have undertaken the painful process if she had known about a five-year stipulation.

"If that was made up front, the eligibility, you know, it would have saved a lot of people grief," Paul said. "When your memories come on and you look at old pictures, you're transported right back you don't forget."

B.C. claimants having more success

Doug Lennox is one of many lawyers across the country working on the settlement. His firm, Klein Lawyers LLP, is listed as counsel for applicants in the British Columbia area.

The communications firm for the class action settlement agreement referred CBC News to Lennox as a spokesperson.

Lennox said he has clients who were approved under the settlement who were in care for less than five years.

He suggested Paul should speak to her lawyer "to review her rejection notice and to understand it and to see if there are any further avenues for her."

"We try [very much] to encourage claimants to reach out to one of the law firms and to get helpbecause it's a complicated process," Lennox said.

Paul said she had to go through the settlement agreement application process with no guidance.

In the settlement agreement, the federal government provided $75 million in legal fees to counsel for the plaintiffs.

The letter Paul received in March 2022 is shown. An X marks the reason for her final rejection. (Robert Guertin/CBC)

Toronto law firm Koskie Minsky LLP is listed as the free legal counsel for applicants in the Atlantic provinces. But each time Paul tried to reach a lawyer at Koskie Minsky, she said she was either directed to a call centreor told to leave a message. She says she never receiveda call back from a lawyer.

Lennox said he can't comment on another firm, but he wants as many applicants as possible to succeed, even if it's not under the Sixties Scoop agreement.

"Not all claims are successful, and that's the case with any class action. In some cases, there are claimants [where the] claim doesn't fit this class action, but it might fit another one," he said.

'Harm was still done'

Lennox suggested Paul send her rejection letter to his firm, so she can get a better explanation.

Paul hopes this is not the end of her journey. She said she wants to find new legal counsel with expertise in this subject matter and revisit her rejection notice.

She also wants to contact some of the 10,251 other people across the country whose claims have been denied for a final time, and work with them.

"There [are]people still out there in my situation," she said. "We belong. We fit [somewhere]in the mix. You know, the harm was still done. We are living it."

Support is available for anyone affected by their experience at residential schools and those who are triggered by these reports.

A national Indian Residential School Crisis Line has been set up to provide support for residential school survivors and others affected. People can access emotional and crisis referral services by calling the 24-hour national crisis line: 1-866-925-4419.