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New research centre in Kingston looks to answer key questions about psychedelics in health care

A new research centre plans to study the use of psychedelics in health care. But some in the community say they're concerned about how patients who participate in clinics and trials at this new centre will be treated.

Some are keen on advancing the science but one expert says patients must come first

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Dr. Claudio Soares, centre, attends the research centre's grand opening on Aug. 7, 2024 with Dr. Roumen Milev, left, vice president of medical and academic affairs at Providence Care. (Submitted by Providence Care)

Canadians have seen a lot of hopeful headlines about psychedelics in recent years, as evidence indicatingthey can help people suffering from treatment-resistant conditions continues to grow.

One womanwith chronic pain is fighting to get her insurer to cover ketamine treatments in Halifax. In Manitoba, there's a waiting list for peopleseekingtreatment with psilocybin. Psychotherapists in B.C. have undergone training to use MDMA commonly knownas ecstasy on patients experiencing post-traumatic stress disorder.

And a new Canadianpsychedelics research centre opened in Kingston, Ont. last week.Psychedelics show a lot of promisein health care and have been used by Indigenous communities around the world for centuries, said the centre's director, psychiatristandresearcher Dr. Claudio Soares.

"In the place that I grew up, for instance, in Brazil,ayahuascais used in the Amazon rainforest in religious ceremonies," Soares said.

But becauseit's a new field, he said,scientists are still working to answer some basic questions about the use of psychedelics. Who should take them and under what conditions?

The Centre for Psychedelics Health and Research, a joint project of Kingston's Providence Care and Queen's University, is expected tobuild on existing researchat Queen's.

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Dr. Claudio Soares, psychiatrist and director of the new Centre for Psychedelics Health and Research in Kingston, Ont., says psychedelics could offer transformative experiences for people with various mental health conditions.

Among other things, researchers want to learn whether psychedelics can serve as a treatment on their own. Two schools of thought arebeing tested, Dr. Soares said.

The first focuses onusing psychotherapy along withpsychedelics.

The second tries to determine whether the experience of "tripping" and the use of therapy techniques are necessary in order for a patient to reap the benefits of psychedelics.

"It's almost like, you have a surgical approach to an injury or you have a physiotherapy approach for an injury," Dr. Soares said. "I would say there's no right or wrong."

Concerns about patient care

But one Kingston health-care professional said theyworry about how well the research centre willtake care of its patients. CBC agreed to give them confidentiality due to their concerns about professional repercussions.

Providence Care runs a ketamine clinic at the hospital of the same name in Kingston.

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The Providence Care Hosptial in Kingston, Ont. operates a clinic which administers ketamine to patients in its Mood Disorders Research and Treatment Service. (John Last/CBC)

The health-care professional said the high-pressure environment of a medical clinic is not a good onefor patients experiencing the "malleable state" brought on by ketamine.

"[The clinic is]just treating [ketamine] as a chemical," he said. "People comeout [of the clinic] very confused, they're not sure how to make sense of it. They don't know how to navigate the experience."

Dr. Argel Aguilar-Valles, a neuroscientist at Carleton University,said that how a person reacts totheir environment does affectthe results oftreatment with psychedelics.

"Usually, if a person feels safe and secure in the environment, the experience tends to be very positive," he said. "That's where usually you see signs of effective treatment. And we have known [that] for quite a long time."

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Dr. Argel Aguilar-Valles is a neuroscientist who researches the effects of psychedelics on the brain. (Submitted by Argel Aguilar-Valles)

He said someresearcherswantto learn if tripping on psychedelics is therapeutically necessary, but their work involves micro-dosing giving patients doses that are too low to cause them to trip.

The ketamine clinic at Providence Care is giving its patients a dose high enough to cause them to trip, the unnamed health-care professional said.

They said they work to prepare their patients for their experience at the clinic but that's somethingthe clinic should be doingitself. They saidthe clinic's staffalso should take a psychedelics first-aid course.

The future of psychedelics

Soares said he can understand that health-care professional's concernsbecause the clinic uses "the medical model of ketamine for depression, which is not integrated with psychotherapy."

"There's probably opportunities lost there to capture what's happening with those patients under ketamine and explore that with them," he said. "Or at least to be aware and sensitive to that experience that can be probably more intense for some patients than others."

He said he plans to reach out to colleagues and suggest that they collect information about their patients' experiences on ketamine to look for "common themes" so that they can share the information withpatients and other researchers.

"I think there's probably opportunities for ... enriching the experience of the academy and clinic," he said.

The research centre will gather professionals from multiple disciplines, Soares said, and there will be "opportunities for cross-training and sharing experiences."

Kingston psychotherapistRichard Tyo said heis happy to see the research expand because he has seen first-hand how effective the safe use of psychedelics can be.

"A lot of [traditional therapy]is just talking about problems and not really going into the emotional content or the somatic or the body experience of it," Tyo said."And that's where [psychedelics] can really help."