Researchers weigh in on Sask.'s small modular nuclear reactor concept

SaskPower has narrowed down where a smallmodular nuclear reactor (SMR) would goif Saskatchewan goes ahead with the technology.

The sites under consideration arein the areas of Estevanand Elbow,which are bothclose to water sources, have existing power transmission infrastructureand have the ability to support a workforce.

SaskPower said the area will be selected by 2023, although the decision on whether to use SMR technology as part of the province's power generation mix will not be made until 2029.

If approved, the SMRcould be operational by 2035.

• SaskPower selects areas near Estevan, Elbow as potential sites for a nuclear reactor

Researchers Esam Hussein and Susan O'Donnell have bothstudied small modular nuclear reactors. They spoke onCBCRadio'sBlue SkyThursday,answering questions from guest hostStefaniLangeneggerand the public.

The following questions and interviews have been edited and condensed for clarity:

Esam Hussein

What exactly is a small modular reactor?

Hussein: There is the small part of it, which means that the power level is less than 300 megawatts. What's new [technology] here is the "modular."

There's a couple of definitions formodular. One of them is building a power plant from small modules, so rather than committing to a large amount of power produced upfront, putting capital and taking the financial risk, a power plant can be built from small units.The other definition of modularity is building the reactors and modules off site.

Theidea here is to reduce the construction time and cost and that has been a challenge to almost any megaproject. As you know they always end up beyond schedule and over budget.

How does thetechnology work?

The boiling-water reactor [the typeof technology chosen by SaskPower for the potentialSMR] is a very well established, tested technology. The new thing here is it's smaller in power and volume, and it is modular.

In a way, it is less risky than going in with a brand new technology, or technology that in the past was proven not to be very effective. The Candu system has been a very reliable technology. It's served the countrywell. It uses natural uranium so we don't have to import enriched uranium, that boiling-water reactorsuse.

However, the cost overruns of the technology has been a challenge.

Howmight it fit in with renewable energy sources?

The way I view it is that having a SMR will actually encourage more use of renewables, solar and wind, because you have a reliable base load that you can depend upon.

How might the location of the SMR affect tourism to the area or people who live nearby?

I spent 25 years of my career in New Brunswick. The Point Lepreau nuclear power plant there is in the Bay of Fundy.

It's a beautiful area. People are still living in the neighborhood. In fact, studies show that people who live near nuclear reactors are very supportive of nuclear technology.

There is nothing really significant releasedthat affects the water quality. The water is monitored. The only thing is that you are releasing some water, not radioactive water, ordinary water, that is slightly hot and it can increase the temperature.

Susan O'Donnell

What do you think of Saskatchewan and your province looking at building a small nuclear reactor?

O'Donnell: There's a huge leap between having a design for an SMR and then getting to the point of having an engineered design where you can actually apply for a licence to build one.

The most advanced design for an SMR in the U.S. is called NuScale, and they've spent almost a billion dollars on the engineered design and they just got a licence to build it.

It's another huge leap between building a prototype that might actually work in a laboratory to getting one that actually commercially works in the real world.

Why then would four provinces be looking at them?

I'd have to say that the decisions around SMRs at the federal level, and certainly at the provincial level, are political decisions rather than based on science.

From reading peer-reviewed science in three different countries Canada, the U.S. and the U.K. it really doesn't make any economic sense. However, what we have happening here is a very, very powerful industry, the nuclear industry, that has a long history in Canada, and they have been lobbying like crazy to get these things off the ground because unfortunately, nuclear power hasn't been successful financially.

In New Brunswick, the Point Lepreau reactor has been a financial disaster for the province. It's put us $3.6 billion in debt. It loses money every year because of the unscheduled downtime.

How is this technology different from what is already in use?

I often hear people say, we already have these small reactors in submarines, et cetera. There's a huge difference between military and civilian reactors, and this is really a crucial point. Those use what's called highly enriched fuel, and basically it's the kind of fuel that you can actually make nuclear bombs out of, and you can only use them in military environments.

What we have in Canada are called Candu reactors, which operate on an entirely different kind of fuel. It's natural uranium from Saskatchewan.

None of the new reactors proposed are proposing to use the Saskatchewanuranium.They're all proposing to use enriched fuel that will come from outside of Canada, because we don't have an enrichment plant here.

The designs are different and they're going to take a long time to realize if they can build them, if they can get them to work.

How might this fit in with renewable energy sources?

We don't say we're going to solve world hunger by feeding everyone caviar. Why would you take the most expensive way to produce electricity, which is nuclear power, and say this is how we're going to solve the climate crisis when the technology does not exist now and we have proven technologies like wind and solar?

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SaskPower is holding public information and engagement sessions throughout autumn. More information can be found on the Crown corporation's website.