Bill C-51: 'No prosperity without security,' Steven Blaney says

Public Safety Minister Steven Blaney testified before the Senate's national security committee Monday, calling on senators to pass Bill C-51, the government's controversial anti-terror legislation.

"I am convinced more than ever that this bill is much needed," said Blaney, referencing the recent arrest of 10 Quebec teens allegedly leaving the country to join jihadists abroad.

"I always said there is no liberty without security now I am convinced there is no prosperity without security."

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Blaneyand more than 15 other witnesses, includingRCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson, spoke before thecommittee at the four-hour long meetingMonday afternoon.

Blaney told the senators thecurrent anti-terror legislation is not as strong as it should be. He spoke about bureaucratic practices in place that impact the ability to transfer information quickly.

"We need to be as swift and fluid and adaptable as [terrorists] are," he said. "We can not wait while terrorist plan their next strike."

'Radicalization' and 'pre-criminalization'

Several senators questioned Blaney on the use of technology in jihadist recruiting. Social media has been seen as a recruiting tool for jihadists.

"We will be able to shut down websites because, why, because we are talking of radicalization," he said of the bill's powers.

Blaney said he is also going to look into "pre-criminalization," in order toprevent individuals from further falling into terrorism.

Blaney's testimony concluded with Conservative Senator David Wellsasking him how important it was to pass the bill before the government's summer recess.

Blaneytold him it was necessaryto have the tools from the bill in place as soon as possiblein order to fight the growing threat.

"This is a bill that is important to my heart," he said. "This is a bill I feel is important to the safety of this country."

RCMP commissioner Paulson didn't speak much at the meeting andwas only asked a few questions by senators. He told themone of his biggest concerns is individuals who go and train with jihadistsand then return to Canada.

He also told the committee that the OPP'sreport into the RCMP'sresponse to the Parliament Hill shootings will be released either this week or next. Paulson also revealed that theywill be releasing the remaining 18 seconds of the Parliament Hill shooter cellphone video in the coming weeks.

ShooterMichaelZehaf-Bibeaurecorded the video immediately before the fatal shooting.The RCMP already released 55 seconds of the videoin March.

The officials werequestioned at length about the sharing of security information. Senator Joseph Day asked specifically about enabling more agencies to accesspersonal income tax informationof suspected terrorists.

Bill C-51 would broaden the Canada Revenue Agency's ability to share taxpayer information with other agencies. It is currently restricted to sharing information about charities who are suspected of terroristplots.

Cathy Hawara, director-general of theCRA's charities directorate, said this would only occur on a case-by-case basis.

"It's not going to be possible to come in and askfor a whole list of detailed information about taxpayers where it's not clear to us at all how this is related to the requesting organization's national security mandate," said Hawara.

"Our responsibility isto protect taxpayer information."

Dr. Bal Gupta, the chair of the Air India 182 Victims Families Association, said measures implemented inbill C-51could have easily prevented the June 1985 bombing, which killed all 329 people aboard the plane.

He said many other countries, like the United States and France, already have similar legislation in place to what is being proposed in C-51.

"Canada has a responsibility not only to Canadians but also to nations worldwide that it will do all it can in the fight against evolving globalized terrorists," Gupta said.

Greater powers for security agencies

Bill C-51, also known as the Anti-Terrorism Act, is now with the Senate after easily passing its third reading in the House of Commons earlier this month. The legislation passed with the support of the Conservatives and the Liberals.

Opponents have criticized the bill for the increased power it gives CSIS. The bill would empower the security service thwart suspected terror plots, rather than just gathering information, but critics say does not include expanded civilian oversight.

It would also boost the transfer of federal security information and implement a new criminal offence for people who are encouraging others to carry out terrorist acts.

Blaney brieflyaddressed addressed these criticisms in Monday's testimony, calling some of the criticisms ridiculous.

"CSIS will not become a secret police force," he said.

It's not the first time Blaney has testified to the Senateabout C-51. He answered questions about the bill with Justice Minister Peter MacKayin late March during the Senate's pre-study of the legislation.