Stephen Harper would quit as PM even if party loses by a seat

Conservative Leader Stephen Harper says he will cease to be prime minister if his party comes a close second in theOct. 19election,signallinghewill not resort to anyprocedural tacticsto remain in power.

In a wide-ranging interview with CBC chief correspondent PeterMansbridge, Harper was asked whetherthe party with the most seats should take power in a minority government situation.

"My position has always been if we win the most seats I will expect toform the government and if we don't, I won't," Harper said.

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Mansbridgeasked Harper if that would be the case, evenif the Conservatives finish only couple of seats behind.

"Well, I would not serve as prime minister," Harper said.

Harper made this vow with polls showing the tightest three-way race in decades. Recent surveys suggest a handful of seats might separate first- and second-place parties.PierreTrudeau hadmused about hanging onto power during the 1979 campaign that saw Joe Clark win a minority mandate.

"Wedon't, you know, elect a bunch of parties who then, as in some countries, get together anddecide who will govern. We ask people to make a choice of a government," Harper said."And soI think that the party that wins the most seats should form the government."

Harper appeared to be ruling out any attempt to try to cling to power through any procedural machinations following the election results if his party finished in second place. For example, if only a few seatsseparated his party from first place, he could try to persuade MPs from other parties to join his government.

Or, he could attempt to form a coalition with the other opposition parties. But Harper has been a vocalopponent of coalition governments.In the 2011 election, when polls suggested theConservatives would win the most seats but might only form a minority government, Harper repeatedly denounced the idea that the opposition would take power by forming a coalition, saying it was an illegitimate way to form government.

NDP Leader TomMulcairhas said his party is open to forming a coalition governmentwith the Liberals. But Liberal LeaderJustinTrudeauhas said thatwhile the two parties could work on legislative bills, there will be no formal coalition with the NDP.

'What's enough?'

The interview with Harper covered a number of different issues, including thecurrent Syrian refugee crisis, a topic that becamea hot issue in the campaign last week after a photo of a drownedthree-year-old Syrian boy made headlines around the world.

Mansbridgeasked whethercountries in the West weredoing enough to help.

"What's enough? What's enough, Peter? There are millions, millions of displacedpersons that we know of in camps etc. There are tens of millions of other people whosesurvival, day to day survival, is in jeopardy," Harper said.

"It's not just enough to turn around and say, oh let's admit more refugees. We canadmit thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands more refugees and we are stillgoing to see those kinds of images. So we've got to be doing a lot more than that."

Harper repeated that part of the solution is to counter militarily the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria andtheroot causes of the millions of people displaced. Canada has sent military forces to the region and has been involved in a series of airstrikes against the militant group.However, Harper acknowledged "we have to be in for the long haul."

On the economy

On the economy,Mansbridgeasked Harper why Canadians should trust his analysis on the current sluggish economy, given that in 2008, he suggested there would be no economic crash.

"I think what that wholeperiod should tell usyou know, analysis is great. But in the end, you don'tknow what you're actually going to be dealing with. We're in a very unstable world."

"Through those ups and downs this government has shown that it has a long-term plan andalso ability to adapt to situations. We have made significant policy changes at times wherewe've needed to."

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Harper dismissed the proposals of the Liberals and NDP, which he characterized as"always spend more," and rejected the tens of billions of dollars ofpromises they have made in the campaign.

"There is an order ofmagnitude difference between the scale of the campaign commitments we have made andwhat the other guys have made," Harper said.

Duffy scandal

About the Mike Duffy Senate expense scandal, Harper said he was angry when he learned that his then chief of staffNigelWright personally paid back the senator's expenses. But Harper, who has said he didn't learn about the payment until it became public knowledge,didn't hold anyone elseaccountable for the scandal, other than Duffy and Wright.

During Duffy's fraud, breach of trust and briberytrial, which is currently on hiatus,court has heard that other members of the PMO at the time were told aboutWright's cheque payment, including Harper's current chief of staff RayNovak. However,Harper's campaign team had denied this.

"There's no person on my staff that Ibelieve deceived me or acted unethicallyor irresponsibly," Harper said.

Asked whether he has any personal regrets about the way he handled the issue, Harper said: "Oh,probably a little bit. But I'm notgoing tobare my soul here."