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2 Canadians freed in Syria were trying to bring children back to Canada

Two Canadians recently released by an al-Qaeda affiliate in Syria were detained while trying to take two young children back to Canada.

'My boys were four and six when they were taken by their father and now they're seven and eight'

Jolly Bimbachi, of Chatham, Ont., reunited with her two young sons in November, after two and a half years in Syria. (courtesy Jolly Bimbachi)

Two Canadians who were recently released by an al-Qaeda affiliate in Syria were detained while trying to take two young children back to Canada.

JollyBimbachi of Chatham, Ont., travelled to Lebanon Nov. 18 to find Omar Ahmad, 8, and Abdal-GeniyAhmad, 7, after her ex-husband, Ali Ahmad, failed to return them to Canada following a2015 visit.

"About twoand half years ago, almost three years ago, my husband at the time kidnapped my kids and brought them to Lebanon," Bimbachitold reporters at a news conference held inBab Al-Hawa, northern Syria on Monday

"I tried a lot of ways to bring my kids back, through lawyers, through the media, through legal matters and I was not successful and it was taking too much time."

She was reunited with her sons, and told CBC News at the time she was hoping to return to Canada with the boys.

"My boys were fourand sixwhen they were taken by their father and now they're sevenand eight," she told reporters in Syria."I wanted to push for co-parenting but their dad doesn't want to talk to me or didn't want to work anything out. So I planned to take my kids out of Lebanon illegally because I thought my options were very very slim to get custody of them or to bring them back home legally."

Jolly Bimbachi planned to smuggle her sons out of Lebanon

7 years ago
Duration 1:15
Jolly Bimbachi said she has no regrets about trying to take her children out of Lebanon illegally, despite spending weeks detained by al-Qaeda affiliate, Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham, in Syria.

Sean Moore, also from Chatham, followed Bimbachi to help her bring her children back, friend Jeff Bultje told CBC News Monday.

"The goal was to arrive in Turkey safely and set up a court so that a neutral country, but still a Muslim country, could decide custody," Moore said inBabAl-Hawa.

Moore said the attempts to resolve the custody dispute started"going in a bad direction, and I can't go into detail, but there is a serious reason why things went sideways they way they did and we ended up in Syria," he said nothing that he arrived in Syria under "a lot of duress."

"Now we're hoping that we can work on the legalities of what's happened and why it went sideways, and all of the truth of will come out eventually."

Helped by HTS

A government official who spoke on the condition of anonymity said the pair was travelling through Syria on their way to Turkey with the boys when they were grabbed by Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), the Syrian branch of al-Qaeda.

Bimbachi gave them the number for her ex-husband and the two boys were returned to Lebanon, the official said.

The official said Bimbachi and Moore were held for three to four weeks, but were allowed to communicate with Canadian officials via the WhatsApp messaging service.

Sean Moore discusses his ordeal

7 years ago
Duration 1:22
Sean Moore describes how he ended up in Syria under the care of Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), the Syrian branch of al-Qaeda

"Hay'atTahriral-Sham HTS, has been helping us out for at least 26 days, maybe more, I don't understand the language but the little bits that are explained to me, that's my understanding," said Moore.

The officialsaidBimbachi and Moore weren't threatened with harm, and no ransom money was sought or paid.

It's not clear when Bimbachi and Moore were released, but in a statement Monday a Global Affairs Canada spokesperson said they had safely left Syria and that the Canadian government was continuing to provide them assistance.

'Many tears'

Bimbachisaid she was "treated very nice by the Syrian families" she stayed with and was made to feel "part of the family.

"I shared many talks and many dinners and many nights and many smiles, and many tears with the people I was with," she told reporters in Syria.

"Unfortunately, a lot of parental kidnappings happen almost on a daily basis, I think there's about 200 cases in Canada every year and that is just Canada by itself and a lot of them happen in Lebanon where the dad does have more rights than the mom," she said.

BothBimbachiand Moore described what it was like being in Syria during airstrikes, which Moore says were conducted by Russian forces.

Brothers Omar and Abdal-Geniy Ahmad were taken to Lebanon by their father in 2015. (Jolly Bimbachi)

"It's terrifying,the buildings shake, even where I was, which is a very secure building, was shaking, even last night," Moore said, without revealing exactly where he was at the time of the airstrikes. "The western world needs to understand, these bombs aren't being dropped on military bases, they are being dropped on children, civilian areas."

"When I go home, I'm going to have to educate the Canadian people, not the way that the news has been educating them because it's backward," he said, without being specific.

Bimbachisaid she had no regrets over her stay in Syria, noting that it gave her an appreciation for what people in that country live through.

"I have taught about what Syrians go through, I have done lectures in colleagues and I have helped a lot of Syrian refugees who came to Canada but I never got to actually feel what they go through," she said.

HTS not on Canada's terrorist list

HTS has a history of renaming itself and altering its structure to confuse outsiders, and the Syrian population, about its true affiliations

As a result, it'snot on Canada's list of designated terrorist entities after its latest name change.

Thatcomplicates things if officials ever wanted to prosecute Canadians who travel to join the group, send it money or spread propagandaon its behalf.

HTS began as theJabhat al-Nusra (the Support Front), and was sent into Syria in 2011 by the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, now the successor or "caliph" of the Islamic State (ISIS).

Jabhat al-Nusra was led by Syrian jihadist Abu Mohammad al-Jawlani.

The United States put the group on its terrorist list in 2012, as the Syrian branch of al-Qaeda, and Canada followed suit.