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Ethics commissioner wants tighter rules on 'pay-to-play' fundraisers

Ethics Commissioner Mary Dawson is calling for stricter rules to govern controversial "pay-to-play" fundraisers where political parties offer access to cabinet ministers.

Lobbying commissioner also 'looking into the matter' and plans to launch an investigation

Ethics Commissioner Mary Dawson says she'd like to see new rules on ministerial fundraisers - but under current law, she can't sanction ministers for attending events organized by political parties. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)

Two of Canada's top government watchdogs are raising serious concerns about controversial Liberal Party fundraisers that lure hefty donations by offeringaccess to influential cabinet ministers.

Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner Mary Dawson says the practice is "not very savoury" and is calling for changes to Canada's law to restrict the practice. Lobbying Commissioner Karen Shepherd says her office has begun investigating the $1,500-a-head fundraising events.

"This is something that I consider to be serious," Shepherd told a parliamentary committee. "That is why I am currently looking into the matter."

Prime Minister JustinTrudeau'sLiberal government came under fire in question period once again Thursday over revelations the Liberal Party organized exclusive $1,500-per-person fundraising events with cabinet figures such as Finance Minister BillMorneauin the private homes of wealthy supporters.

No mandate

Opposition MPs have dubbed the practice "pay to play" and argue thefundraisersviolate ethics guidelines that Trudeau introduced when he came to power. The government has defended the practice, saying the events do not contravene Canada's ethics law.

The fundraising events were in the spotlight as both Dawson and Shepherd appeared Thursday before the House of Commons standing committee on access to information, privacy and ethics.

Questioned by opposition MPs, Dawson said she is "not surprised" by the questions being asked about the $1,500-per-person Liberalfundraisersbut said she could only act if she wereconvinced it fell under her jurisdiction.

"There could be one or two that I mightlook into if I had other information that indicated that there was a possible problem. But I'm not going to open a file on every single one of them if there is not some indication of how it would fit under my [Conflict of Interest] Act.

"There's no point in commencing aninvestigation if there doesn't seem to be grounds under the Act," which right now doesn't cover political activities, she explained.

Dawson said Canada's ethics law prohibits a cabinet minister from organizing a meeting themselves to raise funds, but is silent on what happens if a political party organizes an event that facilitates a meeting.Dawson saidTrudeauintroduced ethics guidelines for his cabinet ministers that go beyond the Conflict of Interest Act, but she has no power to enforce them.

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"I don't have the mandate to enforce that particular document."

Some of the guidelines inTrudeau'sethics code should be incorporated into the Conflict of Interest Act, Dawson suggested.

"A number of those rules would address some of the issues that are raised."

'Sense of obligation'

Meanwhile, Lobbying Commissioner Karen Shepherd said she plans to launch an investigation to determine whether the events contravene Canada's Lobbying Act.

Speakingto reporters, Shepherd said her office has already begun its work.

"The investigation team has a process of what they need to do to gather information," she said. "All the individuals that they need to interview or documents they need to look at will be looked at andanalyzedso I can make a proper decision."

Shepherd said the test of whether an activity crosses the line often hinges on the question of whether a public office-holder like an MP or cabinet minister expects to have to pay back the favour.

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"Organizing a fundraising or event is [something] that I have said creates a sense of obligation."

Another key question is whether a lobbyist properly registers their lobbying activity, she added.

Among the changes Shepherd would like to see in therules is more transparency, such as listing the names of the people who actually attended a meeting. Under the current system, reports often simply list thetop executive of a company lobbying the government.

Thursday was likely the last time Dawson and Shepherd will testify before the ethics committee before their terms expire at the end of the year. The Trudeau government has launched competitions to choose the lobby and ethics commissioners who will oversee its activities in coming years.

Elizabeth Thompson can be reached at elizabeth.thompson@cbc.ca