When it comes to prisoner exchanges with Russia, silence is golden, says U.S. special envoy

U.S. Special Envoy for Hostage Affairs Roger Carstens says he agrees with the Kremlin that silence is essential when it comes to public discussions about prisoner exchanges.

"This might be the one time that I'll agree with the Russians," Carstens said during aninterview onRosemary Barton Live broadcast on Sunday. He explained that fact checking every story that comes up about possible prisoner exchanges, "might prove detrimental to bringing the guys home."

The diplomat is referring to U.S.journalist Evan Gershkovich, 32, and Ottawa-born U.S. citizenPaul Whelan, 54, who are both being held in Russian penal colonies on spying charges.

Gershkovich is a reporter with the Wall Street Journal newspaper and has now spent one year in Moscow's Lefortovo Prison. Whelan is a former corporate security executive and U.S. marineveteran who was arrested in 2018 while in Moscow to attend a friend's wedding.

Gershkovich's sister, Danielle Gershkovich, told Rosemary Barton Live that she continues to exchange letters with Evan on a weekly basis. "He's still my little brother teasing me," she said.

Diplomat sees positive signs

A Moscow court announced last week that Gershkovich's pre-trial detention would be extended another three months, sparking international outcry.

Carstenssaid he views the extension as a "positive" that could signal the Russians want to knock out a deal in the next 90 days. "I'm hopeful that we can get something done before Evan actually starts a trial," he said.

The extension gives his negotiating team "more time and space to try to figure out a way to come to a deal that the Russians will take and that the United States can bring to bear."

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'We don't really progress too much when we start negotiating in public,' says Roger Carstens, the U.S. special envoy for hostage affairs, regarding the one-year anniversary of Russia's detention of American journalist Evan Gershkovich.

Gershkovich became the first U.S. journalist arrested on spying charges in Russia since the Cold War. He was detained by the Federal Security Service (FSB) on March 29, 2023 while on assignment in Yekaterinburg, a city in the Ural Mountains nearly 900 miles east of Moscow.

Given the lack of transparency in Russia's justice system, it's expected the trial would be conducted in secret. Gershkovich could face up to 20 years in Russian prison.

U.S. President Joe Biden specifically mentioned what he called the wrongful detention of Gershkovich and Whelanin his State of the Union address earlier this month, reiterating that his administration would work "around the clock" to bring them home.

Hostage diplomacy a 'silo' amid geopolitical tensions

Carstens told Rosemary Barton Live that "for some strange reason" diplomatic channels used in hostage negotiations can be "siloed" amid geopolitical tensions between countries.

"Even if things are tense between us and the Russians we still usually find a way to work with them to bring our citizens home," said Carstens, pointing to the successful release of basketball star Brittney Griner and former U.S. marine Trevor Reed.

"We work hard and then suddenly one day someone steps on an aircraft and they come back to the United States of America," he said.

In a surprise call to CBC News foreign correspondent Briar Stewart in London, Paul Whelan expressed hope that a deal could be reached to secure his release.

Despite this message of optimism, the recent death of Russia's most prominent political prisoner, Alexei Navalny, left Whelan feeling "extremely depressed."

Whelan said Navalny's death in a Siberian gulagshows how the fate of high-profile prisoners can change in an instant.

Putin comments publicly on jailed Americans

Paul Beckett, Gershkovich's colleague at the Wall Street Journal, finds hope in the factthatRussian President Vladimir Putin mentioned Gershkovich in two recent high-profile events: his interview with U.S. journalist Tucker Carlson, and his annual press conference.

"We understand these conversations have been ongoing and we just look forward to them bearing fruit," Beckett said.

Carstens said that by mentioning Gershkovich, Putin could besuggesting a deal is possible.

"It's hard to put words into any president's mouth, let alone President Putin, but I would like to take that as a signal that he's absolutely willing to bargain and make a deal with us," said Carstens.

Gershkovich's detention has seriously altered the calculation of risk versus reward for journalists working in Russia, Beckett said.

"This is an additional benefit for Putin," Beckett said. "Fact-based journalism has diminished dramatically."

'I'm in awe of my brother,'says Danielle Gershkovich

Danielle Gershkovich said it has been one year since she got the call from her mother letting her know that her little brother had been arrested.

"Whatever we're going through, Evan is going through something so much harder. So we just have to keep moving forward for him," she said.

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Danielle Gershkovich, whose brother Evan remains detained in Russia one year after his arrest, says her family takes inspiration from his continued resilience. 'Whatever we're going through, Evan is going through something so much harder,' she told CBC's Rosemary Barton.

Danielle describedher brother as the life of the party. He was the captain of his high school soccer team. He was a DJ for his college radio station.

Most of all, "journalism is his passion," Danielle said. "There was always a story he was chasing."

Carstens saidhis message to Gershkovich and Whelan is that the U.S. team is not going to stop until they're home.

"Evan is not aspy. He's a journalist. He was essentially doing his job as a journalist and the Russians should just let him go free and clear. And the same with Paul Whelan. He should be just released," said Carstens.