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Shipbuilding contract holds $250M mystery

A CBC News investigation has uncovered a $250-million mystery at the heart of Canada's ambitious shipbuilding program: why have other countries managed to not just design but also build similar ships for a fraction of Canada's design cost?

Cost of Arctic patrol ships' design sparks warning of another procurement 'fiasco'

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Defence Minister Peter MacKay suggests a premium is being paid to have ships built in Canada

This story has been updated.

A CBC News investigation has uncovered a $250-million mystery at the heart of Canada's ambitious shipbuilding program.

Public Works Minister Rona Ambrose and Defence Minister Peter MacKay announced March 7 in Halifax thatOttawa will pay Irving Shipbuilding $288 millionjust to designnot builda fleet of new Arctic offshore patrol ships.

Irving will then build the shipsunder a separate contract.

However, a survey of similar patrol ships bought by other countries shows they paid a fraction of that $288 million to actually build the shipsand paid less than a tenth as much for the design.

In addition, the design of Canada's new ships is based upon a Norwegian vessel whose designOttawa has already bought for just $5 million.

The KV Svalbard, an offshore patrol vessel belonging to the Norwegian Coast Guard, is the parent design for Canada's Arctic offshore patrol ships. It was built for about one-third of what Canada is paying just to design, not build, a similar ship. (Marcus Bengtsson/Wikipedia)

The Norwegian ship, the Svalbard, was designed and built for less than $100 million in 2002.

Experts say the design price is normally 10-20 per cent of the total cost of the ships.

Another country with Arctic interests,Denmark,acquired two patrol ships for $105 million in 2007.

They have modest ice-breaking capability, similar to the Canadian project, which allows for the ships to crunch through "summer ice"about one-metre thick.

The Irish navy now is building two offshore patrol ships for $125 million.

In all cases, these prices include the design.

Why is Canada paying more?

Ambrose,MacKay andPublic Works officials running the Canadian project were not able to explain why Canada would pay so much more to get so much less: shelling out more than twice as much merely to produce a blueprint for similar ships, without building any.

In an interview, Ambrose referred the CBC to her officials for details. But those officials, in a prepared briefing for CBC News,said they were unable to provide details on where, exactly, the $288 million is going.

CBC News also asked MacKay to explain why Canada would pay Irving 10 times as much for the design as other shipyards say it should cost.

MacKay replied "other shipyards are wrong," and left it at that.

The shipbuilding program has been portrayed by the Harper government as a model of transparency and rigour, in contrast to the ill-fated commitment to buy F-35 jet fighters.

The ship plan has its origins in a 2005 pledge by then opposition leader Stephen Harper that a Conservative government would build three Arctic icebreakers to assert Canadian sovereignty in the North.

In 2007, as prime minister, Harper scaled that back. He pledged instead to build six to eight smaller Arctic offshore patrol shipsat a price of $3.1 billion.

Critics dubbed the ships "slush-breakers," but Harper insisted that Canada's stake in the Arctic meant "use it or lose it."

Still, the project encountered many delays, which experts blame on the fact that Canada's shipyards have been in decline for 30 years. They say that recreating a world-class shipbuilding capability, instead of buying ships from foreign builders, is expensive.

Numbers 'staggering'

The size of the Irving design contract is "inexplicable," according to a senior shipbuilding source, who declined to be identified because his company also does business with the government.

He said the design cost is "obviously vastly higher" than is the case in similar projects overseas.

The government's shipbuilding strategy, he said, "is going badly wrong ... [it] will be much more expensive than the F-35 acquisition. It has the potential to be an even bigger fiasco."

Another source with long experience in building combat ships said of the Irving design contract, "the numbers are staggering.There is no rhyme or reasonfor such a vast amount of money, especially not without clarity" on where it's all going.

He said $10-15 million would be a reasonable amount,not $288 million.

A third expert with inside knowledge of the design work said of the Irving contract, "I'm choked on that number to say the least."

He said that the basic design for the Svalbard was bought by the federal government for only $5 million.

Although the Svalbard designwould need extensive revisions to adapt it to Canadian purposes and produce final blueprints,the expert said those might drive the bill up to $20 millioncertainly not to $288 million.

"I have no idea where you find another $200-plus million [just for the design.] That's more than the estimated value of building the ship. As a taxpayer, it doesn't make sense."

As minister in charge of the procurement, Ambrose noted that the new ships are complex, although she did not identify any features that were more costly to design than those in other navies.

Ambrose also insisted that spending more on the design would save money later on.

"We are implementing what's called a design and then build strategy," the minister told CBC News."What that means is that we are spending more money up front on the design and production phase. That's important because we want to make sure that the shipyards, and the navy, and the coast guard, get the design correct."

However, Ambrose did not cite any other country that fails to design first and build later.Interviews with both Ambrose and her officials were interrupted by government media handlers who cut off further questions.

Offshore patrol ships mean offshore jobs

Another criticism of the project is that much of the design work in a project meantto create Canadian jobs is actually going overseas.

Although Irving will manage the design project in Nova Scotia, it has subcontracted the actual production of final blueprints to a Danish firm, OMT. Seventy Danish ship architects will work on those.

The job of designing the systems integration is going to Lockheed Martin and the propulsion system will be designed by General Electric,both U.S. companies.

This is only to be expected, say supporters of the project.

"We've been dormant here for better than two decades now. We don't have the skill sets inside the industry," said Ken Hansen, a member of the editorial boardof the Canadian Naval Review in Dartmouth, N.S.

Hansen agrees that Canada should develop its shipbuilding capacity, but says it will be costly because "we simply don't have the skills in Canada."

As for whether Canada will, indeed, get the sixto eight ships originally announcedsix years ago, most sources doubt it.

The design contract is supposed to produce a final price for the actual ships. Until then, the government says it doesn't know how many ships it can buy for its $3-billion budget.

But even one ship would be worth it, MacKay said in announcing the design contract March 7.

"This is a new capability," he said. "So if we have only one more ship, that would be one more than we have now in terms of our ability to provide this kind of capability and Arctic coverage."

Irving responds with ad

Following the broadcast of this story, both the federal department of Public Works and Irving Shipbuilding objected to it. The government called it "misinformation" and Irving, in a newspaper advertisement, called it "inaccurate."

However, neither Irving nor the government denied that Canada is, indeed, paying far more to design its patrol ships than other countries pay to build them. Equally, neither explained why this is so.

Text of Irving ad

The following text appeared as a fullpage ad in select newspapers on Saturday:

Setting the record straight aboutArctic Offshore Patrol Ship(AOPS) contract

On May 2nd CBC's Terry Milewski ran an inaccurate and inflammatory story regarding the definition contract for the Arctic Offshore Patrol Ships. CBC made absolutely no effort to contact Irving Shipbuilding prior to the broadcast of the story. Our first contact from CBC was after the story had aired.

Mr. Milewski's statement that Canada is paying $288 million just for the blueprints is 100% inaccurate. Here's why: this is a definition contract not a design contract as stated by CBC. The scope of our contract is well beyond the simple "blueprints" referenced by CBC.

It includes:

  • Engineering and detailed 3 dimensional electronic modeling
  • Down payments on major equipment items like radar and engines that must be ordered well in advance
  • Advanced construction of a large section of the first ship to test the design ahead of full scale production which will mean significant savings through the life of the build
  • $38 million of the $288 million contract is HST

This definition contract is an investment today to save money in the future because of better efficiencies and productivity.

IT'S ALL ABOUT DOING THE RIGHT THING AT THE RIGHT TIME TO DELIVER BEST VALUE TO CANADA.

Nevertheless, Irving did claim that its contract to design the ships is not a "design contract" but a "definition contract" including some items which are not strictly "design."

The government, however, agreed that 70% of the contract is, indeed, design. As the government announced on March 7th, "with this contract, Irving Shipbuilding Inc. will refine and complete the Arctic/Offshore patrol ships design to production level prior to construction in 2015."

Neither the government nor Irving claimed that the non-design items would change the fact that Canada's design bill alone is much higher than the price paid by other countries to put completed ships in the water.

Irving did not place any value on these non-design items, but said they include "engineering and detailed 3D electronic modelling."

Its advertisement did not say why this would not qualify as normal design work in the shipbuilding industry. It also noted that the contract includes HST.

Irving's ad says, though, that the contract also includes "down payments on major equipment items like radar and engines that must be ordered well in advance."

CBC News took these fully into account, and the amounts do not alter the conclusion that Canada is paying far more for the design work alone than other countries pay to build similar ships.

Asked to provide figures to contradict this, the department of Public Works did not do so either before or after the broadcast.

Irving also says the contract includes construction of "a large section of the first ship to test the design."

That, too, was also known and taken into account by CBC News, after discussion with Public Works officials, who described the test module as "optional" and were unsure of its cost.

Experts consulted by CBC estimated it at $5 $10 million.

Public Works officials would not provide the cost, or an estimate.

But they suggested $10 million was not an unreasonable amount for what they termed a "test" production module, to "test" Irving's shipyard.

"We haven't yet negotiated that cost," an official told CBC News.