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Trudeau's chief of staff Katie Telford to testify at committee probing Chinese government interference

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's chief of staff has agreed to testify before one of the committees investigating the extent of the Chinese government'sinterference in Canada's elections and what the Liberal government knew about it.

Conservative motioncalling onTelfordto testify before another committee was defeated

Trudeaus chief of staff to testify on foreign election interference

1 year ago
Duration 2:30
Prime Minister Justin Trudeaus chief of staff will testify before the committee probing foreign interference in Canadas elections following weeks of pressure on the Liberals, who say talking to Katie Telford isnt the ideal solution.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's chief of staff has agreed to testify before one of the committees investigating the extent of the Chinese government'sinterference in Canada's elections and what the Liberal government knew about it.

"While there are serious constraints on what can be said in public about sensitive intelligence matters, in an effort to make Parliament work, [Katie]Telford has agreed to appear at the procedure and House affairs committee as part of their study," says a Tuesday statement from the Prime Minister's Office.

The decision clears a logjam at theprocedure and House affairs committee (PROC),whereLiberal MPshave been filibusteringover the past two weeks to stalla vote on callingTelford to appear.

The committee resumed Tuesdaymorning andvoted to call Telford to appear for two hours between April 3 and April 14.

WATCH|Telford a 'critical witness,' says Conservative MP:

Katie Telford is 'a critical witness' on election interference: Conservative MP

1 year ago
Duration 0:41
St-Albert Edmonton Conservative MP Michael Cooper introduced a motion to force the prime minister's Chief of Staff Katie Telford to testify at committee on election interference.

Committee member and Conservative MP Michael Cooper, who first floated the motion, said that while Liberal MPsshould answer for their actions in obstructing the committee, he's pleased with Tuesday's decision.

"It's critical that she testify. She's the second most powerful person in this government, arguably. But not only that, she played an integral role in the 2019 and 2021 election campaigns on behalf of the Liberal Party," he said.

"She is a critical witness to get to the heart of the scandal, which iswhat did the prime minister know, when did he know about itand what did he do or fail to do about Beijing's interference in our elections?"

Liberal MP Greg Fergus said he wasn't willing to call her to testify, but Telford volunteered.

"It allows us to move on to other business," he said. "The tradition is not to have political staff come before committees. It should be ministers who are really responsible for this.It makes a lot of sense. It's been a long-standing tradition of the House and one that should be broken with great hesitation."

A man with brown hair, wearing a dark overcoat, white shirt and blue tie, steps off an elevator.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau steps off the elevator as he arrives on Parliament Hill, Tuesday, March 21, 2023 in Ottawa. (Adrian Wyld/The Canadian Press)

The approved motion also invitesthe national campaign directors for the Liberal andConservative partiesduring the 2019 and 2021 federal election campaignsto testify. It extends the invitation to Jenni Byrne, adviser to Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre,andTauscha Michaud, chief of staff to former leader Erin O'Toole.

Public and political interest in foreign election interference has intensified sincethe Globe and Mail alleged that China tried to ensure that the Liberalswon a minority government in the last general election. The newspaper also published reports saying Beijingworked to defeat Conservative candidates who were critical of China.

Back in the fall, Global News reported that intelligence officials warned Trudeau that China's consulate in Toronto floated cash to at least 11 federal election candidates "and numerous Beijing operatives" who worked as campaign staffers.

Trudeau has said repeatedly he was never briefed aboutfederal candidates receiving money from China.

The Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) calls foreign interference activities by the Chinese governmentthe "greatest strategic threat to national security."

An independent panel tasked with overseeing the 2021 election did detect attempts atinterference but concluded thatforeign meddling did not affect theoutcome.

Conservative motion fails in House

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh took credit for Telford's decision to appear on Tuesday.

Earlier in the day,Singh said his party would back the Conservatives in passing amotion compelling her to appear before another parliamentary committee the standing committee on access to information, privacy and ethics if the government didn't stop filibustering in committee. The PMO announced Telford's appearance not long after.

"I forced the government and I made it really clear today they had a choice. They could stop the obstruction in committee, allow the witness to testify or we would support the motion," Singh told reporters Tuesday. Hispartyhas a confidence-and-supply agreement with Trudeau's Liberal minority government.

New Democratic Party leader Jagmeet Singh rises during Question Period, Tuesday, March 21, 2023 in Ottawa.
New Democratic Party leader Jagmeet Singh rises during Question Period, Tuesday, March 21, 2023 in Ottawa. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)

The Conservative motionwas defeated in theHouse of CommonsTuesday by a vote of 177 to 145.

NDP MPs voted on the side of the Liberals. They were booed bythe Conservative bench.

Speaking to journalists after the vote, Conservative MP Andrew Scheertook a swing at Singh.

"I've served with several NDPleaders. I served in the house with Jack Layton, Ed Broadbent, Alexa McDonoughand Thomas Mulcair. I've never seen an NDP leader like this, selling out longstanding principles that that party used to stand for, in exchange forwho knows what," he said.

The former Conservative leader went on to lambaste the government for stagingwhat he called a "theatrical display" at committee before climbing down and agreeing to letTelford testify.

"Now the prime minister is expecting, Justin Trudeauis expecting a gold star for exhausting every attempt to delay and block Ms. Telford from testifying," he said.

"None of this takes away from the urgent need for a full independentpublic inquiry."

Singh said he'll also still push for a public inquiryinto the allegations of electioninterference.

"I've said clearly, both publicly and privately, that ... we need a public inquiry and we need questions answered in themeantime," said Singh,

"Absent a public inquiry process, the only process that we have is the committee work."

WATCH |Conservatives want a 'partisan show' in committee, says minister

Conservatives want a 'partisan show' in committee, says minister

1 year ago
Duration 11:39
"The Conservatives have wanted to vandalize committees," said Intergovernmental Affairs Minister Dominic LeBlanc. "Many of the questions that they pretend they want to ask Ms. Telford are protected by national security confidences."

The Liberalsfloated making the vote on the Telford motion a confidence matter, but Trudeau shut that down pushing off speculation about an early election for the time being.

On Tuesday, the Prime Minister's Office also released the mandate for former governor general David Johnston's position as independent special rapporteur on foreign interference.

The terms of reference say Johnston will report regularly to the prime minister and must make a decision on whether the government should call a public inquiry by May 23, 2023. The PMO says the prime minister expects Johnston to complete his review by Oct. 31, 2023.

The Conservatives and the Bloc Qubcoishave pushed back against Johnston's appointment, arguing that he is too closely linked with the prime minister.

Trudeau has shot back by accusing Poilievre of attacking Canada's "institutions with a flamethrower."

With files from Richard Raycraft

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