Donald Trump Jr. came to his dads defense when he explained why the former president is scared of debating Vice President Kamala Harris again.

Following Tuesday nights vice presidential debate between Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio) and Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz (D), CNN s Kaitlan Collins asked Trump Jr. about another potential debate between his dad and Harris.

I dont think he can have a chance at getting a fair debate, Trump Jr. said. I dont think theres moderators out there that would do that. I think there are probably Fox moderators that are so worried about even theyre trying to appease the left that theyd actually, maybe, even lean that way.

Donald Trump and Harris had their first debate in September after Trump initially suggested he might back out . He later blamed ABC moderators for fact-checking him during the debate when he falsely claimed Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, were eating pets. Trump whined that the debate was three against one.

Since then, he has done a series of mental gymnastics to give reasons for why he wont debate Harris again, including saying that he doesnt want to win a second time.

Lyin Kamala just put out a request for another Debate because they lost so badly tonight Again, its like the fighter who lost, gets up and says, I WANT A REMATCH, Trump posted on Truth Social after Tuesday nights vice presidential debate.

I beat Biden, I then beat her, and Im not looking to do it again, too far down the line, the post continued. Votes are already cast And Im leading BIG in the Polls. Ill MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, shes incapable of it!

When pressed by Collins about why his dad wont do another debate, Trump Jr. said its not a good environment for his father.

Well, he offered to do the Fox debate, just so were clear, he said. My father, weeks ago, said, Ill do a Fox debate, too. Kamala Harris turned that down because she can only go in like she can only do an interview with a sidekick like Tim Walz on her side she can only do it when she knows shes going to have that upper hand. So I dont think in this environment you can do it.

Trump Jr.s comments came the same night CBS News 60 Minutes announced the former president had backed out of a scheduled interview.

After initially accepting 60 Minutes request for an interview with Scott Pelley, former President Trumps campaign has decided not to participate, according to a statement from the program. Pelley will address this Monday evening.

Harris, who has agreed to participate in the 60 Minutes interview, also accepted an invitation from CNN to debate Trump on Oct. 23. But he has made the excuse that a debate now would be too late in the campaign because voting has already started.