Former President Donald Trump has never really forgiven his vice president, Mike Pence , for refusing to overturn the 2020 election , but he apparently wont have that problem with Sen. JD Vance should he be reelected.
The Republican Ohio senator refused to outright say he wouldnt have certified the election results had he been vice president on Jan. 6, 2021, but implied as much in a conversation Monday with hosts of the All-In Podcast.
Vance said he would have gone along with the plan to have states allow slates of fake electors to be submitted and therefore subvert the election process.
I would have asked the states to submit alternative slates of electors and let the country have the debate about what actually matters and what kind of an election that we have, he said, later adding: The important part is we would have had a big debate. And it doesnt necessarily mean the results would have been any different, but we would, at least, have had the debate in Pennsylvania and Georgia about how to better have a rational election system where legal ballots are cast.
There is no evidence that large-scale voter fraud occurred in Pennsylvania , Georgia or elsewhere during 2020.
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Q: Would you have certified the election?
JD Vance: I would have asked the states to submit alternate slates of electors. pic.twitter.com/uFyklF0xcM
Q: Would you have certified the election?
Republican Voters Against Trump (@AccountableGOP) September 10, 2024
JD Vance: I would have asked the states to submit alternate slates of electors. pic.twitter.com/uFyklF0xcM
Although Vance has made this statement before, the fact that he is now much closer to actually having the opportunity to subvert an election aroused the ire of many users of X, formerly Twitter.
Former Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) condemned Vances theory as illegal and unconstitutional and provided a lengthy explanation as to why.
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Lets be clear: This is illegal and unconstitutional. The American people had voted. The courts had ruled. The Electoral College had met and voted. The Governor in every state had certified the results and sent a legal slate of electors to the Congress to be counted. The Vice https://t.co/8OVgVLh8Ol
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The American people had voted. The courts had ruled. The Electoral College had met and voted. The Governor in every state had certified the results and sent a legal slate of electors to the Congress to be counted. The Vice https://t.co/8OVgVLh8Ol
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Others followed suit.
\"I would have asked the states to cheat in our favor\"
These people freely admit to wanting to rig elections
"I would have asked the states to cheat in our favor"
Fuck You I Quit (@fuckyouiquit) September 10, 2024
These people freely admit to wanting to rig elections
To paraphrase:
Q: Would you have committed a felony?
A: Sure. @JDVance https://t.co/lsO2s8Z6kC
To paraphrase:
Frank Figliuzzi (@FrankFigliuzzi1) September 10, 2024
Q: Would you have committed a felony?
A: Sure. @JDVance https://t.co/lsO2s8Z6kC
Vance is saying that he would have willingly entered a criminal conspiracy
If he wouldve done it then, hell do it if he takes power
Believe him https://t.co/W87AJRg0s4
Vance is saying that he would have willingly entered a criminal conspiracy
Norm Eisen (#TryingTrump out now!) (@NormEisen) September 10, 2024
If he wouldve done it then, hell do it if he takes power
Believe him https://t.co/W87AJRg0s4
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The country already had that debate. It was called Election Day. Your side lost. https://t.co/MaDtzOosJr
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It was called Election Day. Your side lost. https://t.co/MaDtzOosJr
Stephen Whitty (@StephenWhitty) September 10, 2024
The normalization within the GOP of Trumps attempt to overturn the 2020 election, which - remember - was rejected by both Democratic and Republican election officials, is remarkable and deeply concerning for this years vote. https://t.co/EthQWJmTsw
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Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) September 10, 2024
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This is just lawless anti-State sovereignty nonsense. The several States DID submit their electors. They were, in total, sufficient to elect President BIden. You don't get to upend state sovereignty / unilaterally declare a re-do in a separate forum just because you lost. https://t.co/EVE0YZLJAN
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You don't get to upend state sovereignty / unilaterally declare a re-do in a separate forum just because you lost. https://t.co/EVE0YZLJAN Scott Kane (@ataxiwardance) September 10, 2024\n\n\n","options":{"_hide_media":{"label":"Hide photos, videos, and cards","value":false},"_maxwidth":{"label":"Adjust width","placeholder":"220-550, in px","value":""},"_theme":{"value":"","values":{"dark":"Use dark theme"}}},"provider_name":"Twitter","title":"Scott Kane on Twitter / 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Simply un-American, treasonous talk. https://t.co/OZ5lUH0buc
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