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Posted: 2016-06-03T19:19:48Z | Updated: 2016-06-03T19:19:48Z

In the '90s, Suze Orman was a relatively unknown author and financial advisor based in Emeryville, California. Then, in 1998, she got a phone call that had the power to change everything.

"We get a call from a producer by the name of Katy Davis wanting me to go onto 'The Oprah Winfrey Show' -- a moment every single author wants to have happen -- to talk about the spiritual side of divorce," Orman recalls.

The only problem was that Orman wasn't keen on the topic .

"I said, 'You know, Katy, there's nothing spiritual about divorce," Orman says.

She turned down the offer to appear on the show. But, the producer was persistent. "It took her one month to convince me to go on the show," Orman says. "I really didn't want to do it because I wasn't an expert in divorce."