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How disagreements over vaccination and COVID-19 have ripped apart these Alberta families

Differing opinions on COVID-19 and vaccines have caused a wedge for some families in Alberta, and some say they are unsure it's something they will ever be able to repair.

Some say their relationships may not survive, even once the pandemic is over

Alberta residents, from left, Danielle Barnsley, Chanse Mackinnon and Jasmine Lee Boutin say their families have changed because of disagreements over COVID-19 and vaccination. (Submitted by Danielle Barnsley, Chanse Mackinnon and Jasmine Lee Boutin)

As Thanksgiving approaches, some families will be sharing their love for one another by sitting down for dinner or perhaps a physically distanced gathering, a FaceTime call, maybe dropping off food.

But the same can't be said for all some family members may not be speaking to each otherthis holiday season.

Since the COVID-19 pandemicstarted a year and a half ago,it's had lasting impacts on businesses, the health-care system and relationships.

The question ofwhether some industrieswill surviveor be the samepost-pandemicis also true for some families.

CBC News reached out to some Albertans aboutwhether differing opinions onCOVID-19 and vaccines have weighed heavily on theirrelationships.

After speaking with a variety of sources, one thing is certain: Alot of these relationships might notbe in a good placeonce the pandemic is over.

Jasmine Lee Boutin, a 46-year-oldliving in Westlock, Alta., says both sheand her mother are vaccinated against COVID-19, whiletwo of her adult daughters are not.

But her main worry is for her grandchildren, who are all under the age of 10.

"There's been a lot of arguments and fights over trying to get them to realize the importance of being vaccinated, not only for themselvesbut for their children. Trying to get them to understand the possibility that they could pass away, leaving their children without parents," she said.

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Nothing's gotten through to them, and Boutinsays it's now affectedher relationship with her daughters and they rarely get together.

"We don't have the barbecues. We don't have Christmas. We don't do birthdays. We do nothing other than for myself and my mom."

And while she is frustrated with their decisions, it's rooted in worry for their well-being.

"In the last 18 months, I've worried, I think more than I ever have, because I don't know if I'm going to get that call thatthey're in the hospital with COVID," Boutinsaid. "And it might be the last time I see them."

Conspiracy theories and misinformation

Danielle Barnsley, a mother of two from Leduc, Alta.,says she doesn't speak to her parents anymore due to their beliefs around COVID-19 and refusal to get vaccinated.

She says her parents, who are in their 60s, fell victim toconspiracy theories and misinformation aboutthe disease.

"My mother very particularly got into more racist beliefs about where COVID-19 came from and why it was being spread, and that it was actually just a hoax," Barnsleysaid.

"Our conversations became really, really strained because there was like an overarching anger when I would challenge some of their beliefs with actual fact."

The arguments became too much forBarnsley, leading her to cut off contact a few months ago for her mental health.

"There's relief, in some ways, because it's exhausting fighting against conspiracy.... I don't know that everybody has the fortitude to continue talking when it's just blatant misinformation that they're only willing to accept."

Looking toward the future, Barnsley says she's unsure whether she will ever have a relationship with her parents.

"One of the things that I'm learning with this pandemic is that we aren't going back to the way things used to be, and I think it's going to impact family relationships," she said.

"When you see the worst somebody has to offer and how far gone they go, how do you come back from that?"

'I'madamant that I don't want the vaccine'

Chanse Mackinnon, a 25-year-oldfrom Calgary, says he doesn't have plans to get vaccinated.

"I'madamant that I don't want the vaccine. I feel thatto a degree, the science is there to prove your natural immunity," he said, adding that he had COVID-19 last December.

Health experts and government officials, such as Alberta Health Minister Jason Copping, have refuted similar claims.Copping told a newsconference last weekthat while getting infected with COVID-19 gives some "natural immunity," there's uncertainty as to how long it lastsand thatimmunization provides greater protection.

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Mackinnonsayshischoiceto stay unvaccinated has led tosome heated arguments with his sister,who is vaccinatedand has three children at home under the age of 13.

"She still was reluctant to talk to me and have me over. And that was quite frustrating to have to deal with your own family not wanting to even see you."

While the two siblings still talk on the phone, their relationship has changed.

"It puts a wedge in the sense that I feel like we don't talk the same as we used to.... Before all of this, I felt completely comfortable when I could talk to her and say anything I wanted to," Mackinnonsaid.

"Now when I'm around ... I feel like I have to really watch what I'm saying."

He says he's hopeful that once this all blows over, COVID-19 and vaccines won't beashot ofa topic anymore, butsometimes he has his doubts he'll see his sister's familyagain.

"I got three nieces and nephews that are all grown up and I was very involved in their life before, and I feel like now it's kind of dropped out," he said.

Mackinnon says it'sa situation he never thought would happen within his family.

"We've always had our small differences in terms oflike politics and like maybe a little bit of religious views," he said.

"But whether you're vaxxed or not,I don't think that it should be wedging families like it does."

Psychologist weighs in

JoshuaMadsen, aseniorpsychology instructorat the University of Calgary, says while the pandemic has been a silver lining and led to more time spent together for some households, it's led to isolation for others.

"The pandemic has probably impacted vulnerable unions more. It has just created additional stressors, or brought into fullrelief difficulties that were already there in that relationship."

Madsen compares it to the electionof Donald Trump in the United States in 2016 and the threat it caused to family unity.

JoshuaMadsen, asenior psychology instructor at theUniversity of Calgary, says setting boundaries with family members may help relationships last throughout the pandemic. (Submitted by JoshuaMadsen)

"It's no longer about you being a Republican and me being a Democrat," he said about the former U.S. president's rise.

"Italmost revises my view of you, that you could stand behind this person who has said these things about immigrants, women."

Madsensaysit's a similar case withpolarizing viewpoints aroundvaccines and COVID-19.

"I'm not just lukewarm on vaccination, you know. I'm going to get it because I believe in the science and I believe this is the best thing to keep me safe. And I think it's the best thing to do to keep my community safe," he said.

Having someone you love oppose these viewscan lead to distress,which then ideally would require good distress tolerance skills to maintain that relationship, says the psychologist. He describes that as a person's ability to tolerate painful situations or emotions they can't immediately change.

"Part of this distress tolerance is: Can I give up that fight and can I cultivate goodwill in this relationship? Can I extract from it? You know what I can enjoy from it, so can Istay close to this person?"

Five years from now, when COVID-19 may be in the rearview mirror, Madsensays it's hard tosay whether these relationships will be fixed.

"Every family situation is different. But I think we're all under, around the world, similar pressures including family tensions for a number of reasons during the pandemic. And, you know, with the advent of the vaccine, here's a new opportunity for tension or risks in families, which is really sad."