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RCMP lacked proper carbines, shooting ranges for training officers, trial hears

RCMP didn't have enough carbines or adequate shooting ranges to train officers in how to use the weapons, an official with the national force testified Thursday at the RCMP trial in Moncton on Labour Code violations.

Joanne Rigon said few ranges could accommodate the training needed for carbines

According to the RCMP, the cause of the collision is currently under investigation. (Marc Grandmaison/Canadian Press)

RCMP didn't have enough carbines or adequate shooting ranges to train officers in how to use the weapons, an official with the national force testified Thursday at the RCMP trial in Moncton on Labour Code violations.

Joanne Rigon, the acting director general of learning and development with the RCMP, was called as a defence witness at the trial on violations related to the shooting of five Moncton Mounties on June 4, 2014.

RCMPinMonctonwere equipped only with pistols and shotguns that night, when JustinBourquekilled three constables and woundedtwo others.

Several Crown witnessestestified carbines could have made a difference in theRCMP'sresponse to the rampage.Carbines are semi-automatic,short-barrelledrifles that havea longer and more accurate rangethan a pistolor shotgun.

But Rigontestifiedthere were problems developing a new training training program in carbines.

Ten carbines were available but more were needed and they had to be designated for training only,she said.

There were also few shooting ranges in Canada built tohandle the shooting needed for the training, she said.

In a pilot course, training took five days, with part of it done while officers wore hard body armour.The course training standard was developed byJune 19, 2013, but it needed approval from the RCMP legal department.

"Unfortunately it takes time," Rigon said.

Afinal pilot training course was completed by November 2013, she said.

OPP carbines 'not apropriate' for RCMP

Three men in Mounties uniforms
A trial is underway after RCMP pleaded not guilty on charges the force violated four health and safety provisions of the Canada Labour Code in connection with the 2014 Mountie shootings in Moncton, N.B., that took the lives of Const. Douglas Larche, Const. Dave Ross and Const. Fabrice Gevaudan. (RCMP)

Earlier in the day, the court heard testimony fromRichard Poaps, a senior armourer with the RCMP and an expert in firearms and ballistics, who saidcarbines used by the Ontario Provincial Police were not appropriate for the national police force.

In his role as senior armourer,Poapsis involved with research and development, testing firearms and ballistics and was called as a witness to give a demonstration about carbines.

Poaps stressed thatnot all carbines arethe same, and caution must be used before a force the size of the RCMPis equipped with them.

Carbines used by the OPP, for instance, lacked accuracy at 150 metres, he said.

"It would not have met our needs," he said.

An ambidextrous trigger

Poaps also highlighted some differences between the force's general duty carbine and the ones used by the emergency response team. One difference was the an ambidextrous trigger guard on the general duty weapon that until recently the emergency response team's carbines didn't have.

Poaps also said it was important to lookat the ammunition used in firearms, not just at the firearms themselves.

"It's like a paperweight ... if the bullet does do not do what it's supposed to do," said Poaps.

The police force ischarged with violating four provisions of the Canada Labour Codeby allegedly failing to provide members with appropriate use-of-force equipmentand trainingfor responding to an active threat or active shooting event, and failing to ensurethe health and safety of every person employed by the force.

Bourquewas armed with anM305.308 semi-automatic rifle and aMossberg500 12-gauge shotgun when he fatally shot constablesDouglasLarche, DaveRoss, andFabriceGevaudan, and wounded constablesDarleneGoguenand EricDubois.

The trial started on April 24. About two months have been set aside.

Each of the four charges carries a maximum fine of $1 million.

Bourqueis serving five life sentences with no chance of parole for 75 years after pleading guilty to three counts of first-degree murder and two counts of attempted murder.

With files from Tori Weldon