Uncertainty over ice rates, Neebing arena causing concern for minor hockey organizations in Thunder Bay

Thunder Bay minor hockey groups hope they'll have a chance to provide some input before council makes a final decision on the future of Neebingarena.

City council is considering the closure of Neebing as part of a wide array of measures intended to reduce spending. Closing thearena would save the city about $180,000, a report to council states.

The matter was debated on Monday, when Coun. Michael Zussino noted the city's ice time rental rates are lowcompared to other municipalities.

According to the city's website, ice rental rates per hour are:

• $167.43 for minor hockey.
• $211.75 for adults.
• $177.62 for non-prime time ice (before 4 p.m. on weekdays).
• $187.51 for weekday summer ice.
• And $147.33 for weekend summer ice.

"I went to other municipalities of similar population, some bigger, some smaller," Zussino said during Monday's meeting. "Guelph, during prime time hours, charges$265 straight up for everybody.

"Barriecharges $269 an hour straight up."

Zussino also used Sault Ste. Marie as an example, where ice at the GFL Memorial Gardens is about $215 per hour for adults and $193 for youth; ice at the John Rhodes and Northern community centres is about $200 per hour for adultsand $184 for youth.

Zussino suggested increasing ice rental rates in Thunder Bay would offset the $180,000 the city would save by closing Neebing arena, something Kelly Robertson, general manager of community services, said would be the case.

"We did do a rough estimate of how much of a fee increase would be required," Robertson said. "It's based on an average minor hockey rate, I believe, and to achieve the $180,000 cost savings that were associated with the proposed facility closure, that would be roughly a 15 per centincrease to fees.

"Generally speaking, the rates that are charged for ice rental in our city are lower than other municipalities across Ontario."

Lex MacArthur, president of Westfort Hockey (member teams play at Neebing Arena), said that organization could accommodate a price increase.

"I believe wewill be in a position," he said. "We have some good fundraising ventures that have put us in a pretty solid financial position right now."

Parents, however, may see an increase in team fees if the ice rates go up.

"The parents will see their initial registration that they pay, which covers the cost of games, ice and the referees and timekeepers," MacArthur said. "Then the team will ask for team fees, and that's where parents may see a little bit more ofan increase on what they paid last year.

"Team fees cover practice ice and they cover tournaments, so that is potentially where the parents will see theincrease in cost."

Jesse Traer, president of the Thunder Bay Women's Hockey Association, said the uncertainty about ice fees and the arena itself is making planning for the upcoming season difficult.

"It's really hard," he said. "We were hoping this year that we would have the icecontracts out early and ready to go, and it ... makes things a lot easier for planning," Traer said. "Not knowing what's going to happen with the rates, not knowing what's going to happen with Neebing arena, it's really hard to move forward and plan anything."

Traer said a 15 per cent increase to ice rental fees would add up quickly, and about 70 or 75 per cent of the association's costs are ice related.

"It would be significant, the change in cost," he said.

Traer said he'd like to see creative solutions to budgetary challenges, instead of cutting recreation facilities and programs.

"It just seems like it's the easiest thing to do," he said. "But that's what attracts people to the city. That's what keeps people here."

Both MacArthur and Traer said they hope to meet with city administration and discuss the matter directly.

On Monday, council approved several cuts, but deferred some of the decisions including whether or not to close Neebing arena to allow for public consultations and explore possible alternatives.

A report is due back to council in August.