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Posted: 2016-10-10T18:19:25Z | Updated: 2016-10-10T18:26:32Z

Though the polls havent officially declared a winner of the second presidential debate , one thing cant be disputed: There was a huge tie the bright red thing dangling under Donald Trumps chin.

Trumps necktie is infamous for being ridiculously long GQ called this the one style rule you could actually learn from Trump : The tip of a mans tie should fall right in the middle of his waistband or his belt, they said, but Trumps looks like it falls four inches below that.