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Posted: 2024-10-04T15:32:29Z | Updated: 2024-10-04T15:39:48Z

Washington Post columnist Philip Bump owned former Trump spokesperson Marc Lotter in a curt fact-check exchange Thursday on CNN . (Watch the videos below.)

Lotter pivoted from commenting about Kamala Harris campaign outing with Liz Cheney, a Republican, to claim that Harris let in 13,000 murderers who are illegal immigrants in our country.

All of these things are very real, he continued in echoing falsehoods asserted by Trump.

Host Erin Burnett attempted to engage Bump with a question about Harris stumping in heavily Republican regions. But the reporter wasnt about to ignore the comments of Lotter, the strategic communications director for Trumps 2020 campaign.

Yeah, I just want to say, first of all, what Mr. Lotter just said about the 13,000 immigrants is absolutely false, Bump said. And I think its important to point that out.

It came from ICE, Phil, Lotter shot back, referencing Immigration and Customs Enforcement, a federal agency tasked with border security. Be a reporter.

Bump dug in further. Its not true. Its absolutely not true.

Those were people that were in the country for decades, Bump continued. Many of them are in custody currently because they were charged with murders. Ive actually done the reporting on this. So you can trust me, viewers.

Democracy dies in darkness, Phil, Lotter wisecracked.

Thats right. Thats right, Bump retorted. Thats why were honest with our viewers and with our readers.

Lesson: Dont lie about stuff I know more about than you do. pic.twitter.com/7wHwJ42DGg

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Lesson: Dont lie about stuff I know more about than you do. pic.twitter.com/7wHwJ42DGg

Philip Bump (@pbump) October 4, 2024

So there!

In fact, The Washington Post on Thursday conducted an extensive debunking of Trumps claim, calling it a figment of his imagination on top of Bumps previous work on how the data has been misrepresented.

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The two men continued their argument on social media.

Here is the letter directly from ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) detailing the 425,000 convicted criminals, including 13,000 CONVICTED MURDERERS, released into our country that are still here under Kamala Harris that @pbump tried to fact check me on with @ErinBurnett on pic.twitter.com/8iyPRY45wH

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Here is the letter directly from ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) detailing the 425,000 convicted criminals, including 13,000 CONVICTED MURDERERS, released into our country that are still here under Kamala Harris that @pbump tried to fact check me on with @ErinBurnett on pic.twitter.com/8iyPRY45wH

Marc Lotter (@marc_lotter) October 3, 2024

And here are fact-checks from CNN, The Post and me showing that what you said is absolutely false, not that you care. https://t.co/l5gx7xuxaohttps://t.co/lFeWr4Gotchttps://t.co/1uUbiAC8nN

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And here are fact-checks from CNN, The Post and me showing that what you said is absolutely false, not that you care. https://t.co/l5gx7xuxao https://t.co/lFeWr4Gotc https://t.co/1uUbiAC8nN

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